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Old Posted Jan 3, 2016, 5:04 PM
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Hey,

I just made my January 2016 update of the Jeddah Tower. Enjoy the video

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Old Posted Jan 4, 2016, 8:07 AM
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This thing is an utter beast.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2016, 6:13 AM
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Great info on that sectional drawing chris08876. The last habitable floor looks like L167 (670m). Then its just an enormous spire up to 1,006m (336m spire!). And they are calling up a L240 within that spire..nah not in my book can this be called a 1KM tall building. Its 670m tall with 336m spire.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2016, 2:45 PM
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Agree. They keep building these monstrous towers and expect to create an environment around it. Isn't that backwards ?? That does not a city make.
It certainly is backwards when observing the timeline of history. Cities have historically grown organically; however if you throw enough money at anything I guess you make whatever you want. It's the same way in Dubai. Yes, I would like to see the Burg Khalifa in person, but the whole city is fabricated it just doesn't have that same appeal.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2016, 2:50 PM
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"Kingdom City" - only in Saudi would they even bother to name the warren they built for pressed South Asian laborers. They make it sound more like a gated community than a prison camp.
Are they using the same kind of practically slave labor as was done with the Burj Khalifa? You know, its really sad that mega rich people will dump billions on their edifice, but won't treat the laborers with some class.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2016, 4:28 PM
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It certainly is backwards when observing the timeline of history. Cities have historically grown organically; however if you throw enough money at anything I guess you make whatever you want. It's the same way in Dubai. Yes, I would like to see the Burg Khalifa in person, but the whole city is fabricated it just doesn't have that same appeal.
St. Petersburg was pretty artifical. A number of despots throughout history have had cities built in their honour where people were forced to move. Success usually depends on how well the heirs do.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2016, 11:35 PM
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Are they using the same kind of practically slave labor as was done with the Burj Khalifa?
As far as I know, the typical MO for contractors in this region is thus:

1. Use agents in low-employment countries to recruit able bodied workers with the promise of pay, benefits, etc.

2. Fly workers to project site and confiscate their passports, ID's. This is often preceded by the signing of a contract limiting their rights to communication, prosecution, etc.

3. House workers in temporary communities (Kingdom City) similar to 'Company Towns' of the 19th century - low wages keep the workers from pursuing outside housing or services. Often, workers will be liable for 'agent fees' and other obligations meant to keep them indentured to the contractor. Facilities in these desert camps are usually cramped and lacking in AC, clean plumbing, etc.

4. In the event that a worker endeavors to leave (or escape), the contractor will usually extract the total of the workers earned wages as another 'fee'. In many cases, the family of the worker must provide additional money for their release.

This happens to many thousands of people each year - perhaps to millions. The growing populations of young and unemployed coupled with nonexistent oversight results in tragedies like this.
And you're right - the billionaires neither know or care about it. And really, neither do most Westerners.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2016, 2:17 AM
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As far as I know, the typical MO for contractors in this region is thus:

1. Use agents in low-employment countries to recruit able bodied workers with the promise of pay, benefits, etc.

2. Fly workers to project site and confiscate their passports, ID's. This is often preceded by the signing of a contract limiting their rights to communication, prosecution, etc.

3. House workers in temporary communities (Kingdom City) similar to 'Company Towns' of the 19th century - low wages keep the workers from pursuing outside housing or services. Often, workers will be liable for 'agent fees' and other obligations meant to keep them indentured to the contractor. Facilities in these desert camps are usually cramped and lacking in AC, clean plumbing, etc.

4. In the event that a worker endeavors to leave (or escape), the contractor will usually extract the total of the workers earned wages as another 'fee'. In many cases, the family of the worker must provide additional money for their release.

This happens to many thousands of people each year - perhaps to millions. The growing populations of young and unemployed coupled with nonexistent oversight results in tragedies like this.
And you're right - the billionaires neither know or care about it. And really, neither do most Westerners.
Don't kid yourself. The billionaires know about it.
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Hey,

I just made my January 2016 update of the Jeddah Tower. Enjoy the video :

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I enjoyed it on Utube. It was good! This tower has risen much now!!
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2016, 6:02 PM
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Am I correct in thinking that what we see so far is just the core and that steel work outside the concrete will follow?
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2016, 7:11 PM
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It just downed on me. I like that at least there building these cities in deserts and not uber good growing soil. Unlike here In Niagara falls, Canada where they build houses on prime orchard growing soils. I cant wait to see this area develop more well the tower grows.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2016, 9:47 AM
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Actually its not the only thing in the middle of nowhere in Jeddah.

There will be Kingdom City around it although the buildings are not very tall.



Jeddah Tower or Jiddah Tower[9] (Arabic: برج جدة‎),[10] previously known as Kingdom Tower (برج المملكة) and Mile-High Tower (برج الميل), is a skyscraper under construction in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, at a preliminary cost of SR4.6 billion (US$1.23 billion).[11] It will be the centrepiece and first phase of a SR75 billion (US$20 billion)[12] proposed development known as Jeddah Economic City that will be located along the Red Sea on the north side of Jeddah. If completed as planned, the Jeddah Tower will reach unprecedented heights, becoming the tallest building in the world, as well as the first structure to reach the one-kilometre-high mark (Initially planned to be 1.6 kilometres (1 mi) high, the geology of the area proved unsuitable for a tower of that height). Jeddah Tower seeks to bring great changes in terms of development and tourism to the city of Jeddah,[13] which is considered the most liberal city in Saudi Arabia.[14]

The design, created by American architect Adrian Smith, who also designed Burj Khalifa, incorporates many unique structural and aesthetic features. The creator and leader of the project is Saudi Arabian Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, the wealthiest man in the Middle East,[15] and nephew of the late King Abdullah. Al-Waleed is the chairman of Kingdom Holding Company (KHC) [16] which is a partner in Jeddah Economic Company (JEC), which was formed in 2009 for the development of Jeddah Tower and City.[16] Reception of the proposal has been highly polarized; it has received high praise from some as a culturally significant icon that will symbolize the nation's wealth and power, while others question its socioeconomic motives, and forecast that it will have negative financial consequences.

Go ahead! Jeddah tower, you can do it!!!
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2016, 7:57 PM
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I'm curious, do they work on this building every day, 24/7. They certainly have made a lot of progress so far.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2016, 5:58 PM
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2016, 6:14 PM
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What purpose does this thing serve? Honest question.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2016, 8:45 PM
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What purpose does this thing serve? Honest question.
It's half engineering moonshot, half egotistical trophy.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2016, 9:54 PM
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What purpose does this thing serve? Honest question.
It's half engineering moonshot, half egotistical trophy.
- Perhaps its a more peaceful and less expensive version of the atomic bomb: something that will never be used, but is proof that your nation is among the most powerful in the world.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2016, 10:54 PM
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It has grown quite a bit.

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Don't mean to piss on anybody's parade, but will this thing be completed?
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2016, 11:42 PM
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What purpose does this thing serve? Honest question.
Both the Burj and Kingdom tower are attempts at creating an international hub the likes of which doesn't currently exist in the middle east and also they are attempts at diversifying these countries economies. Dubai 15 years ago was a tiny fishing village nobody had every heard of and UAE was a place thought of only in connection to oil. Now Dubai is advertised around the globe as a tourist destination.

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Don't mean to piss on anybody's parade, but will this thing be completed?
Without a doubt it will be completed. The Saudis have more money than God and most of the tourism to Dubai comes from Saudi Arabia.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2016, 3:28 AM
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Both the Burj and Kingdom tower are attempts at creating an international hub the likes of which doesn't currently exist in the middle east and also they are attempts at diversifying these countries economies. Dubai 15 years ago was a tiny fishing village nobody had every heard of and UAE was a place thought of only in connection to oil. Now Dubai is advertised around the globe as a tourist destination.
Yes, because building a massive tower in order to garner international recognition worked so well for Dubai...
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