The Butterfly | 178.6m | 57Fl | U/C

[NewWester]

I love that we can have an argument about viewcones BEFORE they affect a given proposal. We are living in The Future Times.

[squeezied]

Originally Posted by Vin

Wonder if this design also exceeded the viewcone limit like that W. Georgia proposal. Hate to see 10 floors lobbed off the top.

Perhaps you can review the viewcone or higher building policy and see for yourself.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Vin

Wonder if this design also exceeded the viewcone limit like that W. Georgia proposal. Hate to see 10 floors lobbed off the top.

This one should be good to go.

Happy to see the hight of 167 is the roof slab and the actual architectural height of this one is actually 176.8M.

Looking at this diagram it should really hit hard in the skyline, appearing nearly as tall as Trump and SL.

[scryer]

I like it a lot! I reaaaallly hope it goes through. But I'm not too sure how I feel about the way it meets the street. Anyone else have any doubts like this?

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Looking at this diagram it should really hit hard in the skyline, appearing nearly as tall as Trump and SL.

Nice one - thanks for posting!
I wonder if that's the highest development site (elevation-wise) downtown?

Originally Posted by scryer

I like it a lot! I reaaaallly hope it goes through. But I'm not too sure how I feel about the way it meets the street. Anyone else have any doubts like this?

I think the cantilevered / cut away design will help open up the base.
Not really keen on the blocky podium building to the west (rental building for seniors, I think).

[officedweller]

A few other choice excerpts from the DP Application:

All pics from:
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...rard/index.htm

Top of Tower showing elevations and mechanicals
(including damper for sway)



Note the tandem (stacked) elevators
The lower cab is for garbage and service (bikes)
Also note the BMU storage (Building Maintenance Unit) - window washing crane storage.



Note that the "hallways" are actually open breezeways - 50 storeys up!!
That may not be nice on a cold winter's night waiting for the elevator.
Also note the BMU track winding around the curves.



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Skyline Impact



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Podium pics

Stairs and waterfall

[officedweller]

Floorplans from:

http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...rard/index.htm

Site Plan



Floorplans from Ground Level and up.

There is a lot of space for the church.



I didn't know the church has 2 naves / assembly halls.









Check out the open breezeways!

Some excessively large bathrooms on this floor:
Also note the funky pivoting front doors on some units.















Unit 5501 - no private elevator, no roof deck
Unit 5502 - private elevator, roof deck
Unit 5503 - private elevator, no roof deck
Unit 5504 - private elevator, roof deck, no exit from its upper (bedroom) level (---4 death trap?)



Note the BMU track.
BMU storage in in the middle between the cores.

[squeezied]

Glad to see a range of units here. The breezeway is an interesting concept, I wouldn't want to be waiting for the elevator on a cold or windy day. Although with 4 elevators (and presumably a good number of unoccupied units), I imagine you wouldn't have to wait too long.

[Klazu]

Great height indeed and I had not realized that the cylinders will be separated like that. Very cool!

But what the heck are they thinking with that podium? That is so disconnected and poor-looking...

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Great height indeed and I had not realized that the cylinders will be separated like that. Very cool!

But what the heck are they thinking with that podium? That is so disconnected and poor-looking...

Yes, the podium should have arches or curved lines designes into it to complement the building itself.
But the high rise will look reaaaally cool, IMHO. It'll really stand out, being where it is, and add some cool variety to the skyline profile esp when seen from the south.

[Metro-One]

Awesome, thanks for all of the information!

This tower I especially hope is not reduced in height / tinkered with.

Some changes to the podium would be okay.

[BodomReaper]

Really enjoyed browsing the floorplates - thanks officedweller.

We're lucky to have Westbank continuously pushing the envelope in this city.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

This one should be good to go.

Happy to see the hight of 167 is the roof slab and the actual architectural height of this one is actually 176.8M.

Looking at this diagram it should really hit hard in the skyline, appearing nearly as tall as Trump and SL.

Thanks! Hope so and let's keep our fingers crossed.

This building is an architectural gem.

[domusile]

I'll take unit 5504 please

[Vin]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Interesting to see the homeless waiting in line for free food provided by the Baptist Church at the alleyway depicted. I'm guessing that's what it is shown here. The shrubs are meant to hide them?

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Vin

Interesting to see the homeless waiting in line for free food provided by the Baptist Church at the alleyway depicted. I'm guessing that's what it is shown here. The shrubs are meant to hide them?

Or make the waiting area more pleasant for them.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by Vin

Interesting to see the homeless waiting in line for free food provided by the Baptist Church at the alleyway depicted. I'm guessing that's what it is shown here. The shrubs are meant to hide them?

Haha, what an unusual thing to include in renderings, but what else can that be?

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Haha, what an unusual thing to include in renderings, but what else can that be?

Well it says Homeless Outreach Entry in the diagrams.

[Metro-One]

one of the most honest renders i have ever seen!

All renders in Vancouver should include panhandlers, some tagging, and over flowing garbage bins on the street

[csbvan]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

one of the most honest renders i have ever seen!

All renders in Vancouver should include panhandlers, some tagging, and over flowing garbage bins on the street

Tagging in Vancouver? Compared to other North American cities and European cities I would say Vancouver is extremely lightly tagged.