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Old Posted Nov 7, 2016, 10:49 PM
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MYSTERY BUILDING...

Though not as to location. While putting together my residential survey of Wilshire Boulevard, I came across a small apartment building at the nwc of Gramercy Place. There was never a single-family house on the corner, so I put the lot aside. It appears in images we've seen on NLA before, including the eastward view from Wilton Place below dated by the USCDL as 1923... also in a previously-seen 1929 aerial. The building is missing from another air view dated 1948; I've dug around in building records, as well as looking for it by both possible Gramercy and Wilshire addresses in newspaper archives but have turned up nothing.

Anyone interested in a hunt? Hoss?
No luck with a good picture yet, but I can narrow down your time window. I think the mystery building can just be seen in this 1930 view from the construction site of the Pellissier Building.


Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

The image below already appears on wilshireboulevardhouses.com. It's dated 1937, and shows that the mystery house has already been replaced.


Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

I've previously posted this 1936 image which gives a better view of the building that replaced the mystery house.

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The building can be seen on the left of this 1936 shot of Perino's. Morgan at 3951 Wilshire was a florist.


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I've just checked the building records and found this one for 3969 Wilshire Boulevard from 1922. It's page 2 that's interesting. It recommends that Gladys V Smith should be allowed to build six garages at the rear of her apartment house on the corner of Wilshire Boulevard and Gramercy Place. Could her apartment house be our mystery building.


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Great images, Hoss--I was forgetting that the building was gone well before 1948--it was replaced in the latter half of 1935. Still wondering when it was built and why it seems to have been so short-lived -- EDIT: just dug these up:







It was demolished in 1986.


Gladys V. Smith invested in quite a few properties in the area--

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British Overseas Airways Corporation (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1961"

Julius Shulman / http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/...phies/shulman/



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Oh, flew in from Miami Beach B.O.A.C.
Didn't get to bed last night

-The Beatles


Bristolian, B.O.A.C. is also found in the lyrics to Bobby Brown's 'Montego Bay', but many mistakenly believe the word is 'BOAT'.

wrong (red arrow)

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...0bobby%20bloom

It should be...

"Vernon'll meet me when the B.O.A.C. lands"


Listen to it yourself.

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Mr. Brown was primarily known as a songwriter. 'Montego Bay' was his one hit as a singer.


Sadly, Bobby Bloom died of a gunshot wound at the young age of 28. No one knows if it was suicide, accident or murder.

According to wikipedia and many many other sites, he "was killed on February 28, 1974 in an accidental shooting after suffering from depression."


In response:

"Does that mean he accidentally shot himself? How? Or did somebody else shoot him? I can't find anything else about the incident
-- does anybody know more about it?
Janet Land at Media Arts

Someone else wrote this:

"He died of a gunshot wound. Somebody shot him, in a fight over a girl. It was crazy! He kicked down a door, and ran into the room,
and the guy reached for a gun. I don’t think they ever found the guy."
cillit_bang

And finally this...

Bobby Bloom, who sang the 1970 hit “Montego Bay,” died in 1974 at age 28 of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. -sanko

All from
http://ask.metafilter.com/42514/How-...obby-Bloom-die

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Strangely, the other version of Montego Bay that I have by Freddie Notes & The Rudies uses the lyric "Vernon'll meet me when the Boeing lands". It was also released in 1970.

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e_r: For what it's worth, here's the Los Angeles Times write-up on Bloom, March 1, 1974:

SONG WRITER FOUND SHOT TO DEATH[.] Song writer-performer Robert Martin (Bobby) Bloom, who composed the hit “Montego Bay,” was shot to death in the West Hollywood home of a former girlfriend, sheriff’s detectives reported. Officers said Bloom, 28, may have killed himself. Bloom’s roommate, Ronald Wayne Norton, told officers he and Bloom were visiting Linda Marie Karakehian at 807 N. Sweetzer Ave. when Bloom went into a bedroom and a shot was heard a short time later.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2016, 11:45 PM
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Strangely, the other version of Montego Bay that I have by Freddie Notes & The Rudies uses the lyric "Vernon'll meet me when the Boeing lands".
It was also released in 1970.
That is interesting Hoss. Did you listen to the Bloom version? He definitely says B.O.A.C.

and B.O.A.C. makes sense because Jamaica is part of "British West Indies" (it would be a major carrier)
....and in the same stanza he mentions "adjust to the driving" & "it's all on the 'right side'.
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Hmmmm, shouldn't he have said "it's all on the left side"?

then again, there would be no need to "adjust" if he was flying in from the U.K (hmmm...maybe he was flying in from Miami)

I just confused myself. (not a hard thing to do)

Help!

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Hoss, thanks for figuring out the location of the 'Tourist Hotel' / Taxi sign /San Pedro negative.

I really liked this photograph you posted (I didn't expect a color photo that included the unique 'TAXI' sign )


Originally posted by HossC
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& Good job on the 'before' and 'after' photographs Jumbo0!
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Ephemera/Oddity.

What, pray-tel, is a "Zee-Nut"?


http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...77&postcount=1

Someone at '54baseball' said it looks like she is eating a cow pie.


published by....

W.P. Chase
420-422 South Broadway
Los Angeles, Cal.

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Zee-Nut has been mentioned just once on NLA, when I posted some "Zee-Nut" baseball cards (below)

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It's difficult to find anything about the Venice Tigers since they only played two seasons,
but I was able to find these Zee-Nut baseball cards featuring Venice players. (not sure what Zee-Nut is)

wish these were larger.

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I knew the Tourist Hotel looked familiar. It was near the San Pedro Pacific Electric Station on S Harbor Boulevard.



Here's a reverse shot from somewhere near the Tourist Hotel. I know it's large, but I didn't want to crop or shrink it. Just right of center is the TAXI sign.


www.railwaypreservation.com

The building [left] in the background is the old Ferry Building which is now the Los Angeles Maritime Museum.

There is no need for ferry boats because there is now a bridge.






Images...LA Maritime Museum

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[QUOTE=HossC;7615449]


[URL="https://books.google.com/books?


HOLY MOLY!

How did a major corporation get away with such an explicit sexual come on? If you read between the lines,
they are advertising a tour of Asian prostitutes in three countries, with a few train rides and statues
thrown in to make it seem legit. They might as well have said "If you don't get laid, it's your own damn
fault". If a corporation ran this ad today, there would be hell to pay.


Note: If you are really thinking about trying your luck in the Macao casinos, I'll save you the trouble. It will be bad.

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'mystery' location #1



eBay

"Pacific Electric PE - Elevated Line w/Street Car - Vintage Railroad Negative"





http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pacific-Elec...0AAOSw5cNYHRle
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'mystery' location #2


eBay

"PE Pacific Electric Railway - Street Car #405 - Vintage Railroad Negative"





http://www.ebay.com/itm/PE-Pacific-E...3D122212562925
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'mystery' location #3 (with ghost)

"PE Pacific Electric Railway, Warehouse or R.R. Building ?? - Original Negative''









What immediately caught my eye was the ghost-lady.



and I think that guy stopped in his tracks sees her too ----->


http://www.ebay.com/itm/PE-Pacific-E...3D122212570716

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'mystery' location #1: Looking east across elevated tracks behind PE's 6th & Main Sts. Terminal.

'mystery' location #2: Looking NNE at PE's Watts depot (E. 103rd St. & Graham Ave.), still stands.

'mystery' location #3 (with ghost): Looking SE at PE's Watts Substation. After staring and squinting a lot, suspect that "ghost lady" is a backyard incinerator or similar concrete object. Magnification of the image quickly results in pixelation, but I can't make a convincing face on the "ghost". Also, the gentleman in the photo is looking northward up the tracks, not at "her". And it's not Halloween.

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'mystery' location #1



eBay

"Pacific Electric PE - Elevated Line w/Street Car - Vintage Railroad Negative"







http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pacific-Elec...0AAOSw5cNYHRle
The elevated behind the terminal at 6th and Main Los Angeles St passes under behind the photographer, San Pedro St is at the bottom of the ramp, beyond
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A couple of theater marquees in recent shots here of '20s L.A. have featured some BIG names (before pictures got small, that is): Conrad Nagel at the Rialto on Broadway and Pauline Frederick at the Friday Morning Club's Playhouse on Figueroa. Here they
are together in Married Flirts, 1924:

oldhollywood.com


Their houses:

image-archeology.com
Pauline built this house in 1918 on Sunset in Beverly Hills, now numbered 9419. She rented it to Irving Thalberg in the late '20s, and he married Norma Shearer there in 1928. Whatever house is now at this address is obscured by shrubbery, so I don't know if it's still the one Pauline built.


image-archeology.com
Conrad's place at 715 N. Palm Drive, BH. It has either been replaced or is now unrecognizable. Either way it's a shame. I love these Los Angeles variations on American Colonial houses, often found in the Wilshire District. I posted the one at 111 S. Norton, a Three Stooges location still looking good, a while back.

Thalberg reference precipitated a directory search. The '21 and '22 CD lists Thalberg, who was then Universal's General Manager, residing at 3677 Wilshire Blvd. (GW's Wilshire blog discusses the address: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...e-see-our.html) (By '23, Thalberg's residence was listed as 446 S. Norton and by '25, at 689 S. Bronson.) The Ambassador's construction and opening around the same time (1921) must have irrevocably impacted the area 's traffic and diminished the so-called residential quality of the neighborhood. Of course, as busy as Thalberg was, he may have barely spent any time at the address. Several sources have him residing at the Ambassador too.

1921 Ambassador
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Hotel_1921.jpg

Undated photo of general neighborhood.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics19/00009264.jpg
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Today's Julius Shulman post is one of my rare excursions into private homes. I thought it was worth it for another Lloyd Wright design. This is "Job 4812: Lombardi (John) House (Palos Verdes Estates, Calif.), 1971".



I initially thought that this was some sort of pool until I saw the car on the right.



That looks like a pretty good view.



All from Getty Research Institute

The house still stands at 804 Gatos Place. You can read more about it at laconservancy.org.


GSV

Wanting more, I found the pictures below among a collection of 18 at archp.com.



Here's a close-up of the roof windows.



I'll finish with an interior shot.



All from www.archp.com
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Amazing house Hoss...I love it!



Original slide, Huntington Beach 1950s.


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my file
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I don't believe we've seen Howe's Service Station on NLA. [the photograph is dated Oct. 1930]



https://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/17/50/25/16/old_ti38.jpg

Does anyone know where in Hollywood this gas station was located?




close-up


detail

-note the guy wires. (this thing would be like a kite when the Santa Ana winds were blowing.
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