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Old Posted Aug 17, 2017, 4:48 PM
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I do not think the city's population alone makes all that much difference with regard to clout or reputation. San Jose has more people than San Francisco but that's about it. In most people's mind San Francisco remains *the City.* Same sort of thing with Fresno vs Sacramento. And not just here. Look at Atlanta. It has a smaller in-city population than even Sacramento but wields more cultural influence in part because it's the hub for a larger metropolitan area.
Agreed. MSA population weighs heavier on perceived city influence than city population.
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2017, 11:55 PM
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Not sure what the fascination is with city size. Yeah, it will be nice once Sacmento passes Fresno and becomes the fifth largest city in California. But in reality isn't the metro area more significant? Isn't Sac metro the fourth major metro in Calif after LA, SF Bay area and San Diego? Definitely more significant and larger than Fresno metro area.

Below are a few cities with lesser in-city populations than Sacramento but would most people know that?


Atlanta
Miami
Kansas City
Oakland
Cleveland
Minneapolis
New Orleans
Tampa
Honolulu
St Louis
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Orlando
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2017, 4:50 AM
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I do not think the city's population alone makes all that much difference with regard to clout or reputation. San Jose has more people than San Francisco but that's about it. In most people's mind San Francisco remains *the City.* Same sort of thing with Fresno vs Sacramento. And not just here. Look at Atlanta. It has a smaller in-city population than even Sacramento but wields more cultural influence in part because it's the hub for a larger metropolitan area.
Good points.
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2017, 3:04 PM
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Not sure what the fascination is with city size. Yeah, it will be nice once Sacmento passes Fresno and becomes the fifth largest city in California. But in reality isn't the metro area more significant? Isn't Sac metro the fourth major metro in Calif after LA, SF Bay area and San Diego? Definitely more significant and larger than Fresno metro area.

Below are a few cities with lesser in-city populations than Sacramento but would most people know that?


Atlanta
Miami
Kansas City
Oakland
Cleveland
Minneapolis
New Orleans
Tampa
Honolulu
St Louis
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Orlando
The problem with this is that in decades past you had a decaying central city surrounded by thriving suburban areas. Even assuming an urban renaissance, I think it is better to have one city rather than a smattering of them.
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2017, 7:32 PM
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Some of those cities, like Cleveland and Minneapolis, St. Louis and Pittsburgh, used to be much larger than Sacramento but lost population in the last half of the 20th Century. Sacramento has never lost population decade to decade, we have only grown--even when the central city was being forcibly depopulated, the overall city population grew because we annexed surrounding areas (not as aggressively as San Jose, but the growth was still dramatic) and built new neighborhoods that became part of the city. Western cities like Sacramento grew most dramatically after World War II, and tended to grow out rather than up, unless they couldn't due to restrictions of their geography, like San Francisco.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2017, 5:50 AM
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I know of many folk, like myself, moving from the Bay Area to Sacramento. Lots of articles touting SAC as the new CAL boom city. I live between Amtrak and Golden1, and am noticing an increase is pedestrian traffic on non-event days and evenings. I don't see how the population could NOT break 500K by 2020.
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I know of many folk, like myself, moving from the Bay Area to Sacramento. Lots of articles touting SAC as the new CAL boom city. I live between Amtrak and Golden1, and am noticing an increase is pedestrian traffic on non-event days and evenings. I don't see how the population could NOT break 500K by 2020.
Oh, so our rising rents are YOUR fault! kidding
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The areas within the SOI could be added because eventually those are to be added to the city. They sort of are already in the city....planning wise.
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