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Why are some of you so angry or antagonistic, as it appears you are, concerning these fires and/or the news coverage of them?
I was wondering the same thing.


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I'd say Italian Renaissance, specifically Venetian, where Gothic and Byzantine influences lasted longer than elsewhere in Italy.
I agree.

When I first saw the photograph I thought of Venice (the one in Italy )

-especially along the cornice



and the sword-like finials on the roof.

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Although they might well have:




Why are some of you so angry or antagonisitic, as it appears you are, concerning these fires and/or the news coverage of them?




I rarely watch TV news...such a bore. I get news from Internet
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Why are some of you so angry or antagonisitic, as it appears you are, concerning these fires and/or the news coverage of them?
Because disaster porn isn't news coverage. Plus the hyperbole causes actual, but unfounded, worry. Grandpa, 93 and in London, rang with real trepidation fearing his grandchildren had been incinerated as he slept (this in response to the NYT specifically).
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I know when GW reads "New York Trash" he's going to go ballistic.

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The NYT has been shameless since long before Judith Miller. Their business model works for them, so I sincerely doubt they care what we think, pro or con.


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I rarely watch TV news
My sister in North San Diego County consumes it all. If she rings one more time frantically demanding I pack evacuation bags, I'm turning my phone off.



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Thx for the response re FW's apartment building e_r. I've been sitting here wishing I had the skills to photo-shop a gondola into the image.

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Because disaster porn isn't news coverage. Plus the hyperbole causes actual, but unfounded, worry. Grandpa, 93 and in London, rang with real trepidation fearing his grandchildren had been incinerated as he slept (this in response to the NYT specifically).
I can also vouch for the NYT "Fires Enter the Heart of Los Angeles" headline's deleterious effects on the nerves of non-Angelenos. I dealt with a flurry of emails from folk all over the states, along with overseas family & coworkers, who imagined my house rained upon by flaming embers. I pointed out that LA City is, for example, ten times the size of Boston, and I'm in a dense urban area, so wildfires are not a problem. (That said, we've had an uptick in seismic activity, and my neighborhood of shingle homes, including mine, will likely disappear in a conflagration when there's a large temblor and gas lines erupt, power lines go down, and water mains bust.)

But let me shift back to LA architecture. Here's something else I wanted to say about Angeles Abbey. Now, I'm not a Shiite, or Kurdish, or Kuwaiti, but let's say I were, and had family interred at Angeles Abbey. And they're putting Saddam Hussein's picture up all over the place.



iamnotatalker

What if you went to visit Uncle Shlomo at Mount Sinai Memorial and were turned away because they were filming it as a Nazi HQ and paintings of Hitler were everywhere?

Now, I get it, the Abbey needs the filming money to keep the roof from collapsing. Still, one would think the dead could rest in peace.

Forgive my soapboxing. Here then are some more vintage images of Angeles Abbey—





Plus one of me, years ago, saying Merry Christmas!

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Thank you Beaudry. Those were lovely, especially the sepia exterior (and the one of you of course).
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Anyone else notice the owl on the roof and the 'dinosaur' on the telegraph wire?


Good eye Joe. lol
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I know when GW reads "New York Trash" he's going to go ballistic.

Well, let's just say that I know of no one in NY who gives even a tiny thought about what the LAT writes about us or what Angelenos think of New Yorkers.... Seems to be a perennial one-way worry....





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looks to have a touch of Jacobean to me

Anyone else notice the owl on the roof and the 'dinosaur' on the telegraph wire?
There's an owl on the Gamble house in Pasadena, too. At the end of the tour I once took the docent asked if we had any questions so I asked about the owl, and she said that it was put there to scare birds away. Apparently most avian species are too doltish to know the difference between a real owl and a ceramic one.

I don't think the thing on the utility wire is a fake dinosaur, though. I suspect it's a real squirrel, running to the left, and the part that looks like a dinosaur's neck and head is the rodent's tail. I live in a place plagued by squirrels, and they do sometimes use utility lines as roads, as do their cousins the rats. They also chew the insulation on the cables, which is why I lose my DSL every other year or so and AT&T has to send a guy out to replace the cable from the pole to my house. They are cute little buggers (the squirrels, not the AT&T linemen) but obnoxious.
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I don't believe we have seen this stereo-view on NLA.

"Walnut Avenue, Los Angeles, Calif., U.S.A."



If you look closely, the swan is sitting on a metal frond base atop a stone plinth.


in case you need new glasses, here it is even closer

super duper close-up





the location is printed at lower right.
1890s/ebay

Do you suppose this is someone's estate?

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Despite the name of the avenue I'm pretty sure none of the trees are Walnut.

(I should know....my mom has 16 walnut trees in her yard and I've been clunked on the head countless times)

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A nurse and her patient get some fresh air on the fire escape at Good Samaritan Hospital, Los Angeles.


1910s ebay
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Good eye Joe. lol
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ha ha ha ha Mr. Squirrel.....

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Rupert Murdoch's Moraga winery in Bel-Air was Victor Fleming's horse ranch from 1939 until his death in '49.

This photo of Fleming was taken in 1934 with the stars of "Reckless". It wasn't taken at Fleming's ranch, which he didn't own yet, but looks suitably bucolic:


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IMDB quotes a charming anecdote about Fleming,

"Director Henry Hathaway, a former Fleming assistant director, said of his old boss, "There was more of Fleming in [Clark Gable] than there was Gable in Gable. I think that Gable really mimicked Victor Fleming and became that kind of man on the screen".



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"Walnut Avenue, Los Angeles, Calif., U.S.A."



Despite the name of the avenue I'm pretty sure none of the trees are Walnut.
Could those be walnuts beyond the two trees framing the shot? I can't make out the foliage of the obscured trees, just that their trucks are painted white.

The foreground trees almost look like Casuarinas, commonly called Horsetail Pines, although they're not pines at all. I'm getting out on a limb a bit, but I bet odinthor knows
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Because disaster porn isn't news coverage. Plus the hyperbole causes actual, but unfounded, worry. Grandpa, 93 and in London, rang with real trepidation fearing his grandchildren had been incinerated as he slept (this in response to the NYT specifically).
I've been asked in another venue: if I'm OK, have I evacuated...

Folk outside of LA think the whole place is on fire. I tell them LA's a really big place and then point the the pano I recently posted.
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Folk outside of LA think the whole place is on fire.
Seems the Bel-Air click bait opportunities are now just about exhausted:

DEC. 7, 2017, 5:38 P.M.
"Most residents displaced by Creek and Skirball fires will be allowed to go home
Alejandra Reyes-Velarde

As firefighters made progress on the Creek fire, officials announced most residents will be allowed to return to their homes as of 4 p.m. Thursday.

The Riverwood, Ebey Canyon and Doane Canyon areas are open to residents only, as is the Shadow Hills area north of Sunland Boulevard, the Los Angeles Fire Department posted on Twitter. Limekiln Canyon remains closed from Pacoima Canyon Road to Maclay Street.

Skirball fire evacuees — including those who live on Roscomare Road, Bel Terrace, all roads between Sunset Boulevard and Bellagio Road, and North Casiano Road from Mulholland Drive — can return home at 8 p.m. Thursday...."

LAT
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I've been reminded of a scene in Bright Eyes... Mrs. Smythe (née Smith) addressing her staff: "My cousin is arriving from New York tomorrow and
I want you to be sure everything is done just right.... I'm very anxious to show her we can things exactly as well out here as they do in the east...."





We've seen clips from Bright Eyes before, with great scenes of Grand Central Airport, American Airlines Condors and DC-2s, great
pepper tree–lined roads, a PE bus that figures into the scene in which Shirley's mother is flattened as she's carrying Shirley's elaborate
birthday cake, a classic Decoish house in Pasadena (?), and, to top it all off, the great Jane Withers and her machine-gun imitation. The
colorized version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1doC7X_VSM
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I've been reminded of a scene in Bright Eyes... Mrs. Smythe (née Smith) addressing her staff: "My cousin is arriving from New York tomorrow and
I want you to be sure everything is done just right.... I'm very anxious to show her we can do things exactly as well out here as they do in the east...."



Fun to see the old kitchens and how they looked with their various accouterments. Now its all obsolete except for the sink.





Imagine a home with a cook, butler, maid, chauffeur and a handyman....perfect. Oh, I forgot the little girl....Shirley.

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