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Old Posted Dec 19, 2017, 3:00 PM
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So do you think this will go infront of the plan commity in january/february? Or is this going to be dragged through the dirt for awhile before it is heard?
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OCS is in this month's Plan Commission, and both towers got a height increase (1012 ft & 654 ft respectively)
https://www.cityofchicago.org/conten...018_Agenda.pdf
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Nice surprise!
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OCS is in this month's Plan Commission, and both towers got a height increase (1012 ft & 654 ft respectively)
https://www.cityofchicago.org/conten...018_Agenda.pdf
And 45 less units, but whatever...
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2018, 12:21 AM
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And 45 less units, but whatever...
IIRC, JDL said ~40 units were gonna be offsite affordable housing rather than onsite. Although this project now has almost 1,100 parking spots
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IIRC, JDL said ~40 units were gonna be offsite affordable housing rather than onsite. Although this project now has almost 1,100 parking spots
I was just bout to post the parking increase.

Nice 70' height bump for the shorter tower. I do hope the tower has been refined.
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OCS is in this month's Plan Commission, and both towers got a height increase (1012 ft & 654 ft respectively)
https://www.cityofchicago.org/conten...018_Agenda.pdf
Wow! 1012 ft would make it 6th tallest in the city. 654 ft puts the second tower outside the top 25 but still a respectable height.
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Nice surprise! I certainly hope the Planning Commission approves the towers at their current height and density. It'll provide a nice westward push to the skyline north of the river.
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Nice surprise! I certainly hope the Planning Commission approves the towers at their current height and density. It'll provide a nice westward push to the skyline north of the river.
The alderman really had no issues, so I'm pretty sure it'll be approved.
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The alderman really had no issues, so I'm pretty sure it'll be approved.
For once, the crazy ward boundaries in this city work out!
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A lot of parking, but there is also a ton of commercial and office space.

Still, it once again demonstrates just how worthless public urban planning is. Here we have NIMBYs complaining about traffic, and the answer is to create even more parking? Welcome to Stupidland
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Wow. I wasn't expecting both towers to grow in height. Great news!
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2018, 1:55 AM
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A lot of parking, but there is also a ton of commercial and office space.

Still, it once again demonstrates just how worthless public urban planning is. Here we have NIMBYs complaining about traffic, and the answer is to create even more parking? Welcome to Stupidland
Even stupider considering it will be built on top of a subway station on the busiest transit line in the city.
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Awesome news, crossing fingers in hopes this passes!
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Even stupider considering it will be built on top of a subway station on the busiest transit line in the city.
It kind of depends. If a lot of traffic is people circling blocks looking for parking, then having a larger garage may actually help if it lets trips terminate quickly and get off the street.

If I lived there I'd want a car. But I wouldn't want to bring it out for short trips.
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IIRC, JDL said ~40 units were gonna be offsite affordable housing rather than onsite.
They can do that? Is there a boundary? Same neighborhood, same ward?
Can you build a tower downtown and build affordable housing in Logan Square?
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They can do that? Is there a boundary? Same neighborhood, same ward?
Can you build a tower downtown and build affordable housing in Logan Square?
In the specific case of downtown, rental projects can have offsite as long as the units are within 2 miles of the development and still within downtown. For-sale/condo developments can have offsite units be anywhere in the city as long as the units are a comparable investment to being built onsite.
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In the specific case of downtown, rental projects can have offsite as long as the units are within 2 miles of the development and still within downtown. For-sale/condo developments can have offsite units be anywhere in the city as long as the units are a comparable investment to being built onsite.
And that follows the newly expanded definition of "downtown"? Makes the affordable mandate a lot more affordable.
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It kind of depends. If a lot of traffic is people circling blocks looking for parking, then having a larger garage may actually help if it lets trips terminate quickly and get off the street.

If I lived there I'd want a car. But I wouldn't want to bring it out for short trips.
Huh?

If I lived there I would definitely NOT want a car. Why even bother with living in the core of the city if car ownership is a priority?
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While I don't like the parking increase here, I can see why it might be needed. The building had to have a certain amount of parking for the parishioners (from Holy Name) and it will have huge retail spaces that will draw people from around the neighborhood (and city). This building is a destination, and needs some added parking (but I will admit over 1,000 is really high).
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