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[tennis1400]

[SlidellWx]

Dixie Brewery development looks fantastic. Will be a nice shot in the arm for New Orleans East as well.

[tennis1400]

this project filed an amendment to add a tenth floor .


1535 Canal St·Dumpster/Construction Zone · Permit #18-26326-RCZD · Ref Code: 11NZYH
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Type:
Dumpster/Construction Zone
Applicant:
Pra-Se Construction, Lp
Status:
Permit Issued
Date Filed:
8/9/2018
Closed:
No
Description
Construction zone on all four sides of block for Canal, N. Villere, Iberville and N. Robertson that will surround the new construction of a 1- story building extension beginning 08/09/2018 and ending 08/09/2019.

[ardecila]

Just got back from a few great days in NOLA. Lots of new stuff going on, got to ride the St Claude streetcar, etc. I was a little disappointed to see not much progress cleaning up Canal St, a lot more street-level vacancy than I remember from a few years ago, New Era is gone and even some of the t-shirt shops seem to have closed with nothing taking their place. You know things are bad when even Motwani can't keep his damn t shirt shops open! Sazerac House is good news though, and the HI hostel and Hard Rock will improve the Rampart corner.

My uber driver mentioned something about the south terminal at MSY being retained for Southwest? I can't find anything about that in the news, but it would sorta match Southwest's MO of breaking away from the other airlines and using their own facilities like Hobby, Love, Midway, Oakland.

I could see them taking the D concourse and maybe the C, maybe with some cosmetic upgrades, while the rest of concourses are demolished.

[prokowave]

Originally Posted by ardecila

Just got back from a few great days in NOLA. Lots of new stuff going on, got to ride the St Claude streetcar, etc. I was a little disappointed to see not much progress cleaning up Canal St, a lot more street-level vacancy than I remember from a few years ago...

My uber driver mentioned something about the south terminal at MSY being retained for Southwest? I can't find anything about that in the news, but it would sorta match Southwest's MO of breaking away from the other airlines and using their own facilities like Hobby, Love, Midway, Oakland.

I could see them taking the D concourse and maybe the C, maybe with some cosmetic upgrades, while the rest of concourses are demolished.

There are a lot of vacancies on Canal right now, but most of it is due to building renovations/facade restorations. Particularly in the 900-1000 blocks. It's exacerbated by the retail at the State Palace being closed, despite no firms plans to move forward. The corner retail on the ground floor of the Saenger was supposed to be used for a restaurant, but nothing ever came of that - that would be a big opportunity to improve the area.

As for the airport - officials have been secretive about the whole process, but no plans have been made public to retain scheduled flights at the south terminal. They are obligated to keep the newest part of concourse D in operation due to the federal funding it received and the word was that it would be used to charters. I think they are resistant to the idea of keeping any ops at the south terminal, but given the rate of growth, the north terminal as planned will soon exceed its design capacity, not to mention the lack of direct interstate access.

I do think it would be a very logical solution to keep D open for a few airlines. What I'd propose is converting the concourse C parabola into a check-in hall. Put security in the passage between C and D and then convert the current D check-in rotunda into a post-security food court with a few international gates maybe converting gate D1 into international capable for a total of 11 domestic and 3 flexible international gates. That would provide plenty of room for growth at both terminals.

Another thing that isn't often mentioned is that the south terminal hasn't been able to accommodate any more flights because several of the jet bridges need to be moved to the north terminal in advance. Pretty bone-headed planning IMHO. There's no excuse for an airport that size to be limiting its growth due to lack of facilities.

[Uptowner]

Originally Posted by ardecila

My uber driver mentioned something about the south terminal at MSY being retained for Southwest? I can't find anything about that in the news, but it would sorta match Southwest's MO of breaking away from the other airlines and using their own facilities like Hobby, Love, Midway, Oakland.

I could see them taking the D concourse and maybe the C, maybe with some cosmetic upgrades, while the rest of concourses are demolished.

This rumor has been floating around a lot lately, but Southwest was instrumental in the planning for the new terminal and has leased at least 7 gates on the new B concourse Where it will share space with AA and a few CUTE gates. That’s roughly the same amount of gates that they are using now. Just because of the investment they’ve made I don’t see them just up and moving their operation back across the airfield.

[Eightball]

Any movement on using the upper floors of all the Canal buildings as housing? Such a no brainer and would greatly improve the street as well

[prokowave]

If something like that were to happen, I could see them moving everything to the North Terminal for a year or two while upgrades are done on concourse D. I agree that Southwest probably would want to stay in the North Terminal. But if gates are an issue, D is spruced up, and the rent is cheaper, I wouldn't be surprised to see them move. If not them, then the ULCCs Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, and Sun Country, plus the international vacation charters (if they put in some international gates), would be likely candidates.

[Uptowner]

Originally Posted by prokowave

If something like that were to happen, I could see them moving everything to the North Terminal for a year or two while upgrades are done on concourse D. I agree that Southwest probably would want to stay in the North Terminal. But if gates are an issue, D is spruced up, and the rent is cheaper, I wouldn't be surprised to see them move. If not them, then the ULCCs Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, and Sun Country, plus the international vacation charters (if they put in some international gates), would be likely candidates.

If anything, I’m willing to bet that it would be some ULCC and then Southwest or whoever would just take over the vacated gates at the north terminal depending on the leasing agreements. Do keep in mind that there will be 3 or 4 CUTE gates available at the time of opening unless something changes.

Are D1 and D2 not connected to CBP? I could have sworn that they were. Oh, well.

[Nolasaints]

New Orleans new airport terminal is set to be complete by February 2019, is this project on schedule?

[noahb]

Does anyone have an update on the Four Seasons development? Haven't noticed anything going on lately and I thought that project would've taken off rather quickly after the lawsuit was dropped.

[Uptowner]

Originally Posted by sguil1

Great news re Dixie Brewery.

Nola also has a video tour of the site posted. Brewing tanks already on site, does not look like a Micro-brew operation.

https://www.nola.com/business/index....eans_east.html

Do we know where exactly in the East this will be?

[SlidellWx]

Yes to both questions. The airport is still on schedule to open in February, and there is plenty of work going on at the Four Seasons site. They have shut down the streetcar route between Poydras and the Convention Center to accommodate this work. The hotel will open in 2020.

[SlidellWx]

Dixie will be at the old MacFrugals warehouse on Jourdan Rd.

[prokowave]

"Cantrell blasts proposed New Orleans convention center hotel over 'scant' details, strategy"
https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orle...e526a1cfd.html

I'd have to agree here. I know it's been rehashed a lot on this forum, but to me the incentives are excessive. The city get far less revenue from tourism for basic services than most tourist cities and I personally hope at least the food and beverages taxes are diverted to the RTA, NOPD and infrastructure.

With that much money in reserves they could have started building out the street grid and put in a riverfront park with an amphitheater for festivals/concerts. Lease some of the lots to residential/retail developers and then the site would be much more attractive to hotel developers.

[tennis1400]

Originally Posted by prokowave

"Cantrell blasts proposed New Orleans convention center hotel over 'scant' details, strategy"
https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orle...e526a1cfd.html

I'd have to agree here. I know it's been rehashed a lot on this forum, but to me the incentives are excessive. The city get far less revenue from tourism for basic services than most tourist cities and I personally hope at least the food and beverages taxes are diverted to the RTA, NOPD and infrastructure.

With that much money in reserves they could have started building out the street grid and put in a riverfront park with an amphitheater for festivals/concerts. Lease some of the lots to residential/retail developers and then the site would be much more attractive to hotel developers.

Finally got a cellphone signal! Im all for development of a convention center hotel ... however i dislike the group developing it! Something needs to happen there but the whole process is a problem to me. I have to see more details here ... my guess is this combined with jaegers aggressiveness againat harrahs extension makes me think someone is making a play behind the scenes to bring another casino to city by the power plant ... with new rules of casinos on the water and how far they can be i think somethings up !

[prokowave]

Originally Posted by tennis1400

Finally got a cellphone signal! Im all for development of a convention center hotel ... however i dislike the group developing it! Something needs to happen there but the whole process is a problem to me. I have to see more details here ... my guess is this combined with jaegers aggressiveness againat harrahs extension makes me think someone is making a play behind the scenes to bring another casino to city by the power plant ... with new rules of casinos on the water and how far they can be i think somethings up !

Interesting theory, I wouldn't be surprised by that. Certainly hypocritical of him to say the least. He should prioritize redeveloping the rundown buildings he already owns before getting into anything else.

[tennis1400]

Originally Posted by prokowave

Interesting theory, I wouldn't be surprised by that. Certainly hypocritical of him to say the least. He should prioritize redeveloping the rundown buildings he already owns before getting into anything else.

Somethings up ! Def want to inquire more when back in the US... dont forget he owns rhe pwoer plant and neighboring properties ... he needs to put in his own infrastructure

[jjslonaker]

Originally Posted by prokowave

Interesting theory, I wouldn't be surprised by that. Certainly hypocritical of him to say the least. He should prioritize redeveloping the rundown buildings he already owns before getting into anything else.

He is really frustrating to me. I wish he'd sell the Plaza Tower already because that building is not only architecturally important but also is in a great spot now with SMD next door. He's turning into Motwani with holding all of these properties like Plaza or the Power Plant that are just falling apart because of demolition by neglect. If he doesn't have the money or the resources to redo them, might as well sell them to someone who can, rather than endanger historic buildings and have a monopoly just because. He bought them for so cheap he'd make plenty of money back. And honestly nearly all of his projects are cheap, the Jung has been disappointing to say the least.

[sguil1]

https://realestate.nola.com/realesta..._research.html