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Old Posted Sep 10, 2018, 9:30 PM
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^ It appears we are seeing a two tiered system in this country with respect to air travel with the hubs getting mainline while the secondary feeder airports get LLC.
Or is it perhaps market economics at work here? The hubs are also much larger O&D markets.

Let’s not get too excited yet... LCC’s (Flair and Swoop) domestically at least are still tiny bit players. Obviously winters are hard to gauge long term intentions but all the cuts domestically by Flair indicate tough conditions in winter with the aircraft type they are flying. Sure they will redirect their equipment to get in on the sunflights in winter but long term growth overall? Probably a bit too early to conclude a two tiered system.
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Old Posted Sep 10, 2018, 11:04 PM
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EIA today put out an update on winter services :

http://flyeia.com/news/eia-winter-20...rvice-update-2
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Old Posted Sep 10, 2018, 11:39 PM
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Or is it perhaps market economics at work here? The hubs are also much larger O&D markets.

Let’s not get too excited yet... LCC’s (Flair and Swoop) domestically at least are still tiny bit players. Obviously winters are hard to gauge long term intentions but all the cuts domestically by Flair indicate tough conditions in winter with the aircraft type they are flying. Sure they will redirect their equipment to get in on the sunflights in winter but long term growth overall? Probably a bit too early to conclude a two tiered system.
One thing they noticed in Europe with LCCs such as Ryan Air it is a lot easier for start ups to do commerce with the low transportation costs.
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Old Posted Sep 10, 2018, 11:39 PM
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'Edmonton International Airport (EIA) is having another strong year, posting 6.2 per cent passenger growth to the end of July 2018. This robust growth follows a solid 2017, with 7.8 million passengers and a 3.8 per cent increase in passenger numbers'
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2018, 12:14 AM
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^ It appears we are seeing a two tiered system in this country with respect to air travel with the hubs getting mainline while the secondary feeder airports get LLC.
YEG is still, and will remain, a large mainline operation for WS. To that end, one has to separate YEG into some kind of mid-tier that is distinctly different from YXX, a station that is at risk of having all its flights swooped/flaired/jetlined.
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2018, 12:42 AM
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EIA today put out an update on winter services :

http://flyeia.com/news/eia-winter-20...rvice-update-2
What a thorough analysis!

One concerning statistic though....
14% increase in capacity but only 6.2% growth?

Does that mean less than half of the new seats are being filled?

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The press release is pretty accurate too. In previous years these types of announcements were fraught with errors.
Somebody must have done their homework.
IAH on UA is only once daily though not two.

39 international sun flights per week.
About 19 transborder flights per day.

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Old Posted Sep 11, 2018, 1:33 AM
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Does that mean less than half of the new seats are being filled?
When you throw a metric fookton of seats at markets that were adequately served previously...

But Shoop and Flair both claim stupendous loads...
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2018, 3:39 PM
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What a thorough analysis!

One concerning statistic though....
14% increase in capacity but only 6.2% growth?

Does that mean less than half of the new seats are being filled?
They are likely taking into account flights that haven't started yet such as the transborder flights from Flair starting later in the year.
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2018, 5:36 PM
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Edmonton International Airport

Passenger Statistics for August 2018 --

Highlights:

§ Terminal Traffic: 793,749 passengers (5,293,417 Year-to-date)

Domestic 693,596 passengers (4,314,578 Year-to-date)
Transborder 76,408 passengers (647,821 Year-to-date)
International 23,745 passengers (331,018 Year-to-date)

§ FBO Traffic*: 37,244 passengers (270,072 Year-to-date)

§ Grand Total: Overall 830,993 passengers (5,563,489 Year-to-date)


Growth%:

§ Terminal: 9.8% (6.7% Year-to-date)

Domestic 9.6% (6.8% Year-to-date)
Transborder 25.0% (10.4% Year-to-date)
International -17.6% (-0.7% Year-to-date)

§ FBO Traffic: -2.9% (-4.1% Year-to-date)

§ Grand Total: Overall 9.2% (6.1% Year-to-date)
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2018, 7:07 PM
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Oilers are leaving this weekend for Europe. Does anyone know if they are chartering a fancy plane like the Flames and Canucks did when they went to China?

This one that the flames used was pretty cool - https://www.airx.aero/#big-1
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2018, 4:00 AM
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Oilers will use Aeronexus 767, with 96 business seats.

It'd be nice if they flew KLM. Boost them numbers a bit.

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This one that the flames used was pretty cool - https://www.airx.aero/#big-1
That plane is still here in Calgary after bringing them back last week. Not leaving till next week.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2018, 3:33 PM
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It would be nice to use KLM but as I believe most know since 9/11 the NHL has mandated that all teams when travelling as teams must be on charters and not on commercially scheduled flights.

The old days on Canadian flying with the team to LA are long gone....
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2018, 1:57 PM
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Should be enough hockey fans heading over to top up those flights.
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Air France A380 diversion today


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Old Posted Oct 1, 2018, 3:13 PM
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This should help on the CASM:

Edmonton, AB., Oct. 01, 2018 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) --
Flair Airlines (Edmonton, AB): Flair, Canada’s only independent low-fare airline, today announced it has signed a Letter of Intent to bring its first Boeing 737-800NG into the fleet - the aircraft is expected to begin flying January 2019. The move marks the beginning of Flair’s transition from its current fleet of seven B737-400’s to the larger 800NG series.
In addition to this aircraft, the winter schedule calls for two leased B737-800NG’s that will enter service in December. “Our growth plans have always included the move to more fuel-efficient longer range airplanes,” stated David Tait, Flair’s Executive Chairman. “These aircraft will enable us to continue to offer ultra low fares by reducing our costs, while extending our network and offering greater frequency of service.”
Flair recently announced seasonal low fare service out of Edmonton, Winnipeg and Toronto (YYZ), to Palm Springs, Miami, Phoenix/Mesa, Las Vegas, Orlando and St. Pete/Clearwater: The three B737-800’s will primarily operate on Flair’s new southbound routes.
Tait added, “Flair will have replaced the majority of its current fleet with B737-800NG’s by the end of 2019, by which time we expect to be operating 11 aircraft.”
Cities from which Flair operates benefit with dramatically lower airfares as a direct consequence of the carrier’s market presence: Airports also report an increase in first-time air travelers

http://www.globenewswire.com/news-re...ft-Update.html
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 PM
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KLM again increasing flights from three to four for Nov 2018 to March 2019 for 'winter sports holidays':

https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieu...-naar-edmonton
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 PM
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last year they went down to 2 weeklies during winter, so this is quite good.
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2018, 4:32 PM
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KLM again increasing flights from three to four for Nov 2018 to March 2019 for 'winter sports holidays':

https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieu...-naar-edmonton
Interesting that the article talks about refurbishing the 330's. I thought we were supposed to see KLM 787's at YEG but maybe not. I'll take the seating layout of the 330 over the 787 any day.
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2018, 4:43 PM
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Icelandair future at YEG on a thin wedge. For now 2019 summer shows 4x weekly.

https://airlinegeeks.com/2018/09/13/...2019-schedule/

and more revealing:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-a-new-crisis
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2018, 6:03 PM
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last year they went down to 2 weeklies during winter, so this is quite good.
Positive indeed. Very encouraging.

I know for our company this helps with connections during the winter months to Europe and beyond.
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