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Originally Posted by OrdoSeclorum
I feel that most of Manhattan, at about 70,000 people per square mile, is overdense. But I really like Paris, Brooklyn and London at half that density, which is about twice Chicago's density. If Chicago quadruples our population to about 11 million people, please stop in again for a follow up discussion so we can re-asses.
Fun fact! Cicero, IL is the 7th density city over 75,000 people in the U.S.
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Fun fact! Cicero has a land area of just under 6 square miles and a population of about 83,000 people. In other words, you need to find a better source for your "facts." (In case you can't do math, that's a density of about 14,000 people per square mile)
Along those lines, the actual City of Paris, the 41 square miles that most visitors see, is about 52,000 people per square mile, with the arrondissements most visited ranging from about 60,000 to 85,000 per square mile (the monument districts are obviously much less dense, so I've not included those).
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London is famously difficult to assess population density for, because of the various ways you can set boundaries for it, but the parts most visitors are familiar with are generally thought to have a population density of about half that of Paris.
It's true that Manhattan's overall density averages out to about 73,000 people per square mile. But, Manhattan easily feels far more dense than that for several reasons. First, there are 75,000 hotel rooms in Manhattan. Hotel visitors are far more likely to be participating in public life, disproportionately adding to the perception of density. Second, Manhattan has two of the three largest Central Business Districts in North America (Downtown and Midtown) which dramatically increases the daytime population of the island, especially south of Central Park. On a weekday, the daytime population of Manhattan more than doubles, from 1.6 million to about 4 million. So the daytime density of the island is closer to 175,000 people per square mile. Finally, places like the Upper West Side and the Upper East Side are significantly above average in density, at 110,000 and 130,000 people per square mile, respectively.
Finally, the City of Chicago's overall density is actually below 12,000 people per square mile, which is about 1/3rd of Brooklyn's density of about 35,000 people per square mile. Areas like Logan Square, Bucktown, Logan Square, Avondale, Ukrainian Village, and even Lincoln Park, are around 20,000 people per square mile. Lakeview, Rogers Park, and Edgewater are in the 30-35,000 people per square mile density range, and the Near North Side is a bit over 50,000 ppsqm. Hyde Park, Kenwood, Bridgeport, Pilsen, Lincoln Square and similar places average between 15-19,000 ppsqm.
Certainly the most dense parts of Lakeview and Lincoln Park and other popular neighborhoods are higher - within 1/2 mile of the lakefront north of Division Street probably averages over 40,000 ppsqm all the way to Evanston.
So, basically, once you have a stronger grasp of the complexities of population density in various cities, and what you actually like, "please stop in again for a follow up discussion so we can re-assess."
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