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Old Posted Aug 6, 2019, 7:27 PM
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I happened upon this fascinating rppc last night on eBay

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Does anyone know what set this event in motion? ...

Unless I'm mistaken, Nazi Germany didn't invade Poland until September 1, 1939. (a month and a half later)


sidenote:

Whoever designed the lighting was no doubt aware of Hitler's rallies in Nuremberg.

The Nazi sympathizers at Murphy Ranch in Rustic Canyon would have seen able to see the searchlights.
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The guy who founded MRA was prescient:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Re-Armament

In the 50's one of my father's employees was an MRA follower, and used to bombard me with literature. Noirish connection: Mentioned in "Farewell My Lovely."

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Earl
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2019, 7:34 PM
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Wow!

I was unaware of the MRA movement.

Thanks for the link, Earl.
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2019, 7:38 PM
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Thanks for solving the sign mystery, HenryHuntington.


Otis, you piqued my curiousity so I googled Keuffel & Esser items.


This cast iron pencil sharpener isn't the most impressive Keuffel & Esser item but it certainly brought back memories of drafting class.

..........If I remember correctly, you stuck your pencil in the hole and moved the top part in circles. (there was sandpaper inside


etsy

It was made of cast iron so it wouldn't fly off the table.

Does anyone else remember using one of these things to sharpen a pencil?

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E.R. - From my "extensive" drafting experience in 9th grade shop class, I remember using one of these sharpeners.

As I recall, these were not meant for common wood pencils, but instead to put a sharp point on a mechanical drafting pencil.


www.worthpoint.com

My recollection is that the lead in these old mechanical pencils was quite a bit thicker than modern pencils.
The old sharpeners kept a nice point on the pencil, which was needed for drafting work.
With today's pencils, the lead is very thin and sharpening is unnecessary.
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2019, 7:44 PM
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I HAVE one of those K&E sharpeners. They sharpen mechanicval pencil leads and do a great job, plus they are always at the ready as a paperweight.
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2019, 7:47 PM
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LEROY is a small pantograph which fits into the grooves on a lettering ruler template. You put a pencil or a drafting ink pen (Rapideograph) in the other mount on the Leroy. Then you trace perfect letters. The result is beautiful, exactly'matching lettering on blueprints. I have them as well.
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2019, 7:50 PM
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http://www.kleefeldoncomics.com/2015...lettering.html
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1700 S. Santa Fe Avenue

Seventeen hundred south Santa Fe Avenue was built c. 1923-24 for the Southern California Gas Company. In this
April 2019 shot, we see new artwork on the building's south side:



Google Street View


But atop the building's north and west sides we see the original artwork in which a gasometer dominates the scene:



April 2019 GSV

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Old Posted Aug 6, 2019, 9:49 PM
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Here's a quick "then and now" of the end of the building. The first is circa 1938.

This view of the Southern California Gas Company is looking east from Santa Fe just north of 11th and includes the administration building on (right, in Vernon), maintenance facilities, a circular gas storage tank, and in the distance on the left the Sears building can be seen.


LAPL

The gas tank has gone, but the Sears building is still there.


GSV
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2019, 10:31 PM
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E.R. - From my "extensive" drafting experience in 9th grade shop class, I remember using one of these sharpeners.

As I recall, these were not meant for common wood pencils, but instead to put a sharp point on a mechanical drafting pencil.


www.worthpoint.com

My recollection is that the lead in these old mechanical pencils was quite a bit thicker than modern pencils.
The old sharpeners kept a nice point on the pencil, which was needed for drafting work.
With today's pencils, the lead is very thin and sharpening is unnecessary.
They were designed to sharpen one of these; the ad calls it a "clutch pencil" but we (5 years mechanical drawing in Jr. Hi and Hi) always called them "chuck pencils." Whatever. Pushing the button releases the jaws and allows the lead to slide in and out. You got very good at holding the pencil just the right height above the desk to extend the lead to sharpening depth, then a quick spin in the sharpener and back to work.



Still around:

https://www.draftingsteals.com/catal...adholders.html

If you keep this up I'll have to introduce you to the "mouse mattress," another basic drafting tool :-)

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They were designed to sharpen one of these; the ad calls it a "clutch pencil" but we (5 years mechanical drawing in Jr. Hi and Hi) always called them "chuck pencils." Whatever. Pushing the button releases the jaws and allows the lead to slide in and out. You got very good at holding the pencil just the right height above the desk to extend the lead to sharpening depth, then a quick spin in the sharpener and back to work.



Still around:

https://www.draftingsteals.com/catal...adholders.html

If you keep this up I'll have to introduce you to the "mouse mattress," another basic drafting tool :-)

Cheers,

Earl

K-E

I never heard that name but this must be it?
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2019, 3:15 AM
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K-E

I never heard that name but this must be it?
Ding! Ding! You win the Internet tonight!

Cheers,

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Old Posted Aug 7, 2019, 3:45 AM
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Gasometer at 11th and Santa Fe

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circa 1938


LAPL
Thanks, Hoss. I wasn't familiar with this particular gasometer.


February 11, 1923, Los Angeles Times:



ProQuest via LA Public Library
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2019, 4:41 AM
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E.R. - From my "extensive" drafting experience in 9th grade shop class, I remember using one of these sharpeners.

As I recall, these were not meant for common wood pencils, but instead to put a sharp point on a mechanical drafting pencil.


www.worthpoint.com

My recollection is that the lead in these old mechanical pencils was quite a bit thicker than modern pencils.
The old sharpeners kept a nice point on the pencil, which was needed for drafting work.
With today's pencils, the lead is very thin and sharpening is unnecessary.
Thank you! I knew I'd seen that type of sharpener before, and yes, it was in drafting class! I agree on the modern pencils, I love my Koh-I-Noors.
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But atop the building's north and west sides we see the original artwork in which a gasometer dominates the scene:


April 2019 GSV
Good eye FW!

I didn't realize how large the building is.....It's very impressive.


GSV


This plat map of the property is being used on the loopnet site.

...but isn't it kinda' old?


loopnet

It still shows five long & narrow lots between Olympic Blvd. and 1760 S. Santa Fe Avenue (address of the old gas building)

Those individual lots are loooong gone.


google_aerial


This is a neat old pic of the building and gasometer.


I cropped it a bit.

Thanks for finding it, Hoss....You're a Pro.

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Old Posted Aug 7, 2019, 5:18 AM
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Ding! Ding! You win the Internet tonight!

Cheers,

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E-B

24 karat gold plated drafting tool for Earl.

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Agree with the notion that there were several anachronisms in the picture, the one that jumped out out me was a car on Wilshire in Westwood, among the high rise apartments....clearly, some of the buildings were '80's or later vintage...I would have thought they could have been removed by CGI.
No doubt. Every frame of CGI has a price on it, however. I remember a number of times (on the few films that I worked on) where we had thought we'd use CGI at the time we got the shot but in post we realized we'd rather spend the money elsewhere. It's always a trade off ... and many times people are focused on the foreground action and don't pay any attention to the anachronism you are worried about. I remember a number of shots in Pearl Harbor where special effects devices, and even crew members, were in a shot and no one paid any attention. It was only when I was going over the film carefully checking out the locations that I noticed them.
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2019, 5:46 PM
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I happened upon this fascinating snapshot the other day on eBay...but now can't find it again. (hence: no link)

Have we seen this rather unusual church?


Sierra Madre Church....11 - 29 - 24.......................................




I wonder if all the stones were collected in the surrounding area. That would be awesome.

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Old Posted Aug 7, 2019, 6:22 PM
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Does anyone know what this mystery thingy is at Griffith Observatory, c.1983 Slide.

I am surprised by its prominent location.


eBay

It's obviously some kind of transmitter, right?

Do you think that old pedestal is a hold over from WWII




Free night out at the Cocoanut Grove for any noirisher who can find a second photo with this mystery thing. (I tried) I FAILED
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2019, 6:51 PM
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One more post for today.


This is a rather fascinating snapshot. It makes you feel like you've traveled back in time & you're right there with these people.

eBay

Does anyone remember where, in Long beach, the Brainard Apts. was / is located?



REVERSE


As you can see..it was ripped from a photo album. (I'd love to see other photographs from this album)

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