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Old Posted Aug 20, 2019, 1:16 AM
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2019, 1:22 AM
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In context to the West Loop, Union West looks much better in reality than it did in the renderings. Not saying I thought it was ugly necessarily, but it's really solid
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I really like it. Great density. I wish BKL would do more brick buildings in this style. My only complaint is I wish they went with darker/black windows to complement the darker base.
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For ALTA Grand Central, are they leaving the concrete exposed like that? I really hope so. For a more or less filler project, I really dig this one. It helps connect the Cooper down the street, or whatever they call it as part of the Riverline/Southbank project. The street presence along Harrison and most of Wells is great. They did a great job of hiding the bulk of the parking. And the twin towers design is above average.

It is not groundbreaking in design or execution, but it is well above average. For a mid-rise building, I will take it!
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2019, 1:51 PM
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2019, 2:45 PM
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A looming slowdown in the apartment construction boom:

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...pers-pull-back
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2019, 2:55 PM
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Crane going up at Erie and LaSalle.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2019, 5:14 PM
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Crane going up at Erie and LaSalle.
I'll bet they've stopped (cab up) because of lightning danger.
Mat pour at 353 Grand going on now.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2019, 6:19 PM
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For ALTA Grand Central, are they leaving the concrete exposed like that? I really hope so. For a more or less filler project, I really dig this one. It helps connect the Cooper down the street, or whatever they call it as part of the Riverline/Southbank project. The street presence along Harrison and most of Wells is great. They did a great job of hiding the bulk of the parking. And the twin towers design is above average.

It is not groundbreaking in design or execution, but it is well above average. For a mid-rise building, I will take it!
LOL nope. This is a Pappageorge building, of course it will be painted! You can already see the dark gray paint in harry's first photo.

I agree that it looks awesome unpainted, and I am sad to see the paint... but the street presence and the lack of podium is a pleasant surprise.
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LOL nope. This is a Pappageorge building, of course it will be painted! You can already see the dark gray paint in harry's first photo.

I agree that it looks awesome unpainted, and I am sad to see the paint... but the street presence and the lack of podium is a pleasant surprise.
The problem here is the weather; There's no spec mix yet that can hold up to our brutal thermal extremes without unsightly cracking and patching. You could prob get a lot of mileage in a warm climate leaving concrete exposed but in Chicago it needs a coating.
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The problem here is the weather; There's no spec mix yet that can hold up to our brutal thermal extremes without unsightly cracking and patching. You could prob get a lot of mileage in a warm climate leaving concrete exposed but in Chicago it needs a coating.
Except that there are many buildings in Chicago and the Midwest in general with uncoated exterior concrete. Or are you suggesting that what those have done is different than the typical concrete residential building?
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Except that there are many buildings in Chicago and the Midwest in general with uncoated exterior concrete. Or are you suggesting that what those have done is different than the typical concrete residential building?
No, it's a load of crap that our environment makes this impossible. There are 120 year old bridges that have stood for that long with basically zero maintenance all over Chicago being constantly blasted by salt.

Paint is to cover up lazy concrete work and stretch landlords maintenance dollars. Also because Americans have been trained to believe concrete is an ugly material.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2019, 10:22 PM
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The problem here is the weather; There's no spec mix yet that can hold up to our brutal thermal extremes without unsightly cracking and patching. You could prob get a lot of mileage in a warm climate leaving concrete exposed but in Chicago it needs a coating.
OK - why not a clear coat then (silane/siloxane/etc)? Admittedly it would give the concrete a "wet look" but still allow the texture and variation to show through.
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how do people feel about the Contemporaine's concrete now that it's 15 years old?

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8916...7i16384!8i8192
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how do people feel about the Contemporaine's concrete now that it's 15 years old?

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8916...7i16384!8i8192
Love that building - at street level it feels ... real
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2019, 11:18 PM
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how do people feel about the Contemporaine's concrete now that it's 15 years old?

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8916...7i16384!8i8192
Love it. This is how you do a parking garage without hiding it. There are so many wonderful things about this building.
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“Development is slowing due to rising construction costs, tougher affordable housing regulations and worries about rising property taxes, said Ron DeVries, senior managing director in Integra’s Chicago office”
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how do people feel about the Contemporaine's concrete now that it's 15 years old?

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8916...7i16384!8i8192
Hmm, that's a tough one. I respect it, it's honest. The parking podium is about the best that can be expected. But they didn't bury the parking when they could have.
I'm not a fan of protruding balconies if they don't form a coherent exterior. And maybe it's just me, but something about raw concrete just feels bleak. Remember Total Recall, the original?
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2019, 3:45 AM
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“Development is slowing due to rising construction costs, tougher affordable housing regulations and worries about rising property taxes, said Ron DeVries, senior managing director in Integra’s Chicago office”
Rising costs will probably result in projects being spaced out more, which isn't bad if one wants to avoid a bubble. I'm hoping that's why I've seen slowdowns on suburban projects. That there's just a shortage of crews, not a shortage of funding.

For regulations and taxes, good luck with that. Keep building I guess.

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Old Posted Aug 21, 2019, 7:37 AM
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Old Town Park 2: pushing the boundary of downtown just a little farther northwest



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On a side note, does anybody know how I can attach a *normal-sized* high res photo

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