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Originally Posted by plinko
This is incredibly naive. Look at the amount of input the City got with regard to the reverse lanes. You think people in Moon Valley weren't interested?
Central was once the main thoroughfare into downtown Phoenix, but it hasn't been for about 50 years or so. The 7s are (and will continue to be for at least another generation), commuter roads.
Trying to advocate for retail to the 7s when it barely has a pulse at Central and Washington is foolish. The city needs organic growth downtown absolutely, but leapfrogging will only serve to hurt the progress. Downtown will continue to be just a series of disparate parts, rather than a cohesive place. Join the fledgling pieces that already exist first, then worry about how to address the periphery.
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I am not advocating retail on 7th; that wouldn't be the job of the city anyhow. But the city is responsible for creating the "bones" in this region of town. They should create a streetscape that would facilitate future development while benefiting the current needs of residents; which would be to provide respite from the heat island and creating a livable environment which includes adding pedestrian friendly arterial streets for a growing downtown population.
It would also establish a "gateway" into downtown. A nice green street with walkability is a great selling point for tourists, business, etc. It would reverberate throughout the small downtown. The reversible lane "debacle" wasn't as big of an issue as you are making it out to be. How many people actually responded to the change and attended meetings; out of 1.4 million, probably a few hundred if that...
Also, I remember when light rail was first advocated for Central the biggest complaint was that it would negatively impact car traffic since Central was a main thoroughfare. People complained that no one would use the light rail and that traffic would back up for miles. Anyway, this conversation is an interesting one, but we all know there is no immediate case or movement to put 7th Street on a road diet.
Interestingly, I've noticed that 3th Street/5th Street are often backed up more so than 7th Street before and after downtown events and games...