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Old Posted May 10, 2019, 10:09 PM
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And yet it’s white people who sold a good chunk of the west side to Chinese. Only 20% of Vancouver real estate is owned by those of Chinese ethnicity. So shouldn’t you be mad at shadow flipping caucasians?

PS: if the place with more Chinese has less laundering that’s pretty strong correlation to prove that chinese launder less than caucasians. Better than evidence than your opinion pieces or looking as individuals cases.
How is the West Side getting flipped? Point Grey and Kerrisdale and Shaughnessey are expensive on their own. It's the condos that get presold overseas and constantly change hands .

If you can call investigative journalism "opinion pieces," then your statistics are "real estate shill jobs." You've repeatedly posted either irrelevant or poorly-analyzed graphics to help your argument, and most of the forum has called you out on it.
Nothing says more money was laundered in Alberta except a metric based on GDP and crime rates. Direct quote from Edmonton's article:

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The report used a complex economic model that factored in provincial GDP and crime rates to arrive at dollar-figure estimates for the amount of money laundered in each province and region between 2011 and 2015.

The authors, led by panel chair Maureen Maloney, a Simon Fraser professor, acknowledged that it is impossible to actually measure how much money laundering takes place in a given jurisdiction.
“It must be stressed that the inherent secrecy of an activity designed to hide the true nature of financial transactions, together with the lack of reliable, internationally consistent data, means that there is no definitive way to measure money laundering activity,” the report said.

“The relatively high estimates of money laundering in Alberta and the Prairies may be surprising,” it continued. “Based on the discussion of limitations to the model set out earlier, these results likely arise from the importance placed on crime rates and GDP levels.”

“Relative crime rates have been rising in Alberta and the Prairies while falling in some other jurisdictions and, until oil prices fell in 2015, Alberta and Saskatchewan GDP were also relatively high.”

“If money laundering in Alberta and the Prairies have been overestimated by the model, that implies that money laundering in B.C., Ontario and Quebec have likely been underestimated,” it concluded.

Duhaime said using economic models to estimate the amount of money laundering in a given jurisdiction can give a baseline, but added it doesn’t appear the estimates factored in things like Vancouver’s high levels of organized crime, its fentanyl trade and the amount of dirty money stashed in the real estate market.
Also, where did I say a certain ethnicity makes you likely to be a criminal? Even the ethnicity in question acknowledges the problem! The "racism" card is part of why the rest of the province hasn't done the same until now!
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The irrepressible Hong Guo, lawyer and erstwhile Richmond mayoral candidate, jumps on the blame money laundering bandwagon:

Richmond real estate lawyer Hong Guo says Chinese police have charged two of her former employees in connection to the disappearance of about $7.5 million that Guo alleges was stolen from her firm’s trust account, laundered through B.C. Lottery Corp. casino accounts, and transferred to China in the form of casino chips.

At a press conference Monday, Guo claimed that through her own investigations in B.C. and China, she has forwarded sufficient evidence to Chinese police authorities in order to secure charges against her former employees.

Guo claimed that through court actions, she has obtained B.C. casino transaction records to support her case.

Postmedia News has reported extensively on Guo’s case since late 2016. However, Guo’s allegation that suspects exploited weaknesses in B.C. Lottery Corp. accounts in order to launder funds stolen in Richmond and to transfer the criminal proceeds to China, will receive heightened scrutiny in the midst of an independent review into allegations of transnational money laundering in B.C. casinos. The first recommendations of Attorney-General David Eby’s reviewer Peter German will be released Tuesday.

In legal documents, Guo alleges that her former employees developed an inappropriate relationship in the office, and through a complex scheme, in March 2016 drained her trust account by forging her name on cheques, and then deposited millions in bank drafts into BCLC client accounts. Cash was withdrawn from casino accounts and somehow ended up in China, Guo’s legal filings allege.

On Monday, Guo added new details, alleging that suspects made massive cash and playing chip withdrawals from New Westminster’s Starlight Casino before fleeing to China.

“The facts I know, is (a female employee) took cash from her account every day, for a short period of time … $700,000, and $800,000. It’s a large amount. So the casino doesn’t think something is wrong?” Guo said....

..Guo also claimed on Monday that a B.C. Law Society investigation of her trust fund shortage case has found no issues at her practice.

In response to questions from Postmedia after Guo’s press conference, Law Society spokesman David Jordan said: “Our investigation of Guo continues and details of any investigation remain confidential unless and until a citation is authorized.”.


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Old Posted May 11, 2019, 1:47 AM
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I see some BC Liberal MLAs are starting to go after the BC NDP for not doing anything in the last two years until now...

It's tone-deaf at any rate but what they don't seem to grasp is that the vast majority of British Columbians just want this dealt with and they don't necessarily care by whom.
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I'm starting the countdown on another thread lock :p .
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https://bc.ctvnews.ca/just-one-of-my...Seov_ZiDRsyuuQ

Money laundering investigator Peter German described properties where the purchase didn’t line up with the occupations of the buyers, such as a student who purchased 15 condos in the same building for $2.9 million, and a homemaker who bought five luxury homes for $21 million.

15 condos for $2.9 million? That's a pretty good deal!

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Old Posted May 11, 2019, 10:43 PM
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Money laundering investigator Peter German described properties where the purchase didn’t line up with the occupations of the buyers, such as a student who purchased 15 condos in the same building for $2.9 million, and a homemaker who bought five luxury homes for $21 million.

15 condos for $2.9 million? That's a pretty good deal!

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Yeah how far back in time are we going with these examples. Unless that building was falling apart.
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Old Posted May 12, 2019, 7:55 PM
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Since we seem to want to go back to the beginning regarding money laundering....

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The Socreds liked private companies to operate the casinos as long as they shared a healthy percentage of the profits with the provincial government.

This model remained in place throughout the 10 years of NDP rule from 1991 to 2001 and continued through 16 years of B.C. Liberal rule. There are now 37,000 people employed in the gaming industry in B.C.

In the early 1990s, the existence of casinos troubled some commercial crime investigators, who worried about them becoming de facto laundromats for gangsters. These concerns were covered extensively by a reporter of that era, Don Ramsay.

Around the same time, Vancouver residents were also extremely worried about money laundering in casinos.

That was one reason why Las Vegas-based casino mogul Steve Wynne and Concert Properties weren't able to win approval from the City of Vancouver for a gambling and hotel complex called Seaport Centre on the Vancouver waterfront.

A report by a young city planner named Larry Beasley helped kibosh this idea.

Concert Properties was created with the help of union pension funds.

In the early 2000s, there was great alarm again in Vancouver over the introduction of slot machines. In a narrow vote in 2004, Vancouver city council first allowed them at the Plaza of Nations at the casino owned by Jackson.

Council also approved slot machines at Hastings Racecourse, which was owned by Great Canadian Gaming Corp. This vote drove a wedge within the Coalition of Progressive Electors, which had a large majority on council.

One of the key lobbyists at that time was John Horgan, who was a partner in a company called IdeaWorks. (Horgan's current chief of staff, Geoff Meggs, was then a top assistant to the mayor, Larry Campbell.)

Horgan previously worked for the B.C. Ministry of Management Services, which oversaw the expansion of gambling across the province under the last NDP government. Meggs was communications director for that NDP government as it was expanding gambling.

In 2004, Horgan said that he and his partners were hired by casino owners Jackson and Len Libin of Gateway, and worked closely with charities, unions, and community groups. A former NDP cabinet minister, Ian Waddell, and SFU criminologist Neil Boyd were also retained to help make the case.

"Our objective here was to bring those diverse groups together to see the benefit of allowing slot machines in Vancouver...city projects through increased revenue, a future for charitable organizations through a new facility, and jobs for trade unionists," Horgan told the Straight in 2004. "Once the fabric all came together, the cloth looked pretty impressive for a majority of council, and that's why we were successful."

So it's clear that Horgan, who is now premier, doesn't have any philosophical objections to casino gambling.
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The irrepressible Hong Guo, lawyer and erstwhile Richmond mayoral candidate, jumps on the blame money laundering bandwagon:

Richmond real estate lawyer Hong Guo says Chinese police have charged two of her former employees in connection to the disappearance of about $7.5 million that Guo alleges was stolen from her firm’s trust account, laundered through B.C. Lottery Corp. casino accounts, and transferred to China in the form of casino chips.

At a press conference Monday, Guo claimed that through her own investigations in B.C. and China, she has forwarded sufficient evidence to Chinese police authorities in order to secure charges against her former employees.

Guo claimed that through court actions, she has obtained B.C. casino transaction records to support her case.

Postmedia News has reported extensively on Guo’s case since late 2016. However, Guo’s allegation that suspects exploited weaknesses in B.C. Lottery Corp. accounts in order to launder funds stolen in Richmond and to transfer the criminal proceeds to China, will receive heightened scrutiny in the midst of an independent review into allegations of transnational money laundering in B.C. casinos. The first recommendations of Attorney-General David Eby’s reviewer Peter German will be released Tuesday.

In legal documents, Guo alleges that her former employees developed an inappropriate relationship in the office, and through a complex scheme, in March 2016 drained her trust account by forging her name on cheques, and then deposited millions in bank drafts into BCLC client accounts. Cash was withdrawn from casino accounts and somehow ended up in China, Guo’s legal filings allege.

On Monday, Guo added new details, alleging that suspects made massive cash and playing chip withdrawals from New Westminster’s Starlight Casino before fleeing to China.

“The facts I know, is (a female employee) took cash from her account every day, for a short period of time … $700,000, and $800,000. It’s a large amount. So the casino doesn’t think something is wrong?” Guo said....

..Guo also claimed on Monday that a B.C. Law Society investigation of her trust fund shortage case has found no issues at her practice.

In response to questions from Postmedia after Guo’s press conference, Law Society spokesman David Jordan said: “Our investigation of Guo continues and details of any investigation remain confidential unless and until a citation is authorized.”.


https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...ugh-b-c-casino
Hong Guo being so prescient she could jump on a bandwagon before it even started! So why are you reposting a 2 year old story? I get it now, you get all your posts from reddit posts that were deleted
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Old Posted May 13, 2019, 1:46 AM
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Hong Guo being so prescient she could jump on a bandwagon before it even started! So why are you reposting a 2 year old story? I get it now, you get all your posts from reddit posts that were deleted
Oh look, we have the president of the Heng Guo fan club in our midst. Hopefully you didn't run her election campaign.

It's all part of the Vancouver model money laundering racket, which is what this thread is about.
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Oh look, we have the president of the Heng Guo fan club in our midst. Hopefully you didn't run her election campaign.

It's all part of the Vancouver model money laundering racket, which is what this thread is about.
Who is Heng Guo? Lol. You can't even get all the Chinamen in your head straight. I'm not showing my support to anyone least of all her, just using this opportunity to make fun of you.
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Oh look, we have the president of the Heng Guo fan club in our midst. Hopefully you didn't run her election campaign.

It's all part of the Vancouver model money laundering racket, which is what this thread is about.
Whatnext your usually the money laundering guy why so silent about the recent revelation that the NDP started it, Horgan advocated for it, and profited from it?
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Whatnext your usually the money laundering guy why so silent about the recent revelation that the NDP started it, Horgan advocated for it, and profited from it?
It goes against his narrative that the beneficiaries of it are all foreigners with hard-to pronounce names (by him that is).
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It seems pretty clear that the current NDP government is the only one, at any level, willing to end money laundering as a core factor in BC's economy, as evidenced by the announcement today of a Public Inquiry, following the NDP-commissioned German reports.
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It seems pretty clear that the current NDP government is the only one, at any level, willing to end money laundering as a core factor in BC's economy, as evidenced by the announcement today of a Public Inquiry, following the NDP-commissioned German reports.
Not that I'm against anything to combat crime but I do wonder how effective a province can be at tackling something thats in the Federal sphere of responsibility. Shouldn't it be the Federal NDP calling for this?

It feels like all these studies are just ways to stir up the crowd rather than accomplishing anything.
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Yes its a conspiracy! Government officials are being paid cash by money launderers to hide it!

The same for drug crime, murders, etc, government officials get kickbacks from all of them so they order the police to stop investigations into these crimes.

Thats why we have all crime, because of corruption. The government deliberately allows all crime to occur.
So Canada is now like a Third World Banana Republic? Or has it always been like this?
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Not that I'm against anything to combat crime but I do wonder how effective a province can be at tackling something thats in the Federal sphere of responsibility. Shouldn't it be the Federal NDP calling for this?

It feels like all these studies are just ways to stir up the crowd rather than accomplishing anything.
These studies and inquiries are used to provide information, to the public and the government, on criminal activity so the government can take actions to prevent that criminal activity from occurring. And the provincial government has a number of tools to do so. The province regulates many of the industries implicated in these money laundering schemes. The province can also take additional steps, like the beneficial ownership registry, intended to make BC less desirable a location for laundering money.

It doesn't seem at all like its meant to stir up the crowd. It's a government doing its due diligence. Which is what we should expect.
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It goes against his narrative that the beneficiaries of it are all foreigners with hard-to pronounce names (by him that is).
Echoing the CPC bots, oh dear.

Looks like we will have a full-fledged Public Inquiry into money laundering in BC: https://biv.com/article/2019/05/bc-g...ney-laundering
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Whatnext your usually the money laundering guy why so silent about the recent revelation that the NDP started it, Horgan advocated for it, and profited from it?
Wow, sounds like this John Horgan is a major money launderer. I hope John Horgan catches John Horgan with the public inquiry that John Horgan announced today.
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I also hope that misher rereads and notes that Horgan lobbied for gambling. There's nothing there about money laundering.
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Echoing the CPC bots, oh dear.
Conservative Party of Canada? Or is everyone who doesn't agree with you 100% is a bot or shill of some sort?

Hate to break it to you but I voted NDP last federal election.
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