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Old Posted Feb 5, 2010, 3:03 PM
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Anyway, it sure will be nice to see the end of that sound wall on Richmond. I seem to recall from long ago that it used to be actual masonry, complete with vines growing over it, but it sure isn't now.
By word of local residence, I heard that the old wall still stands just on the other side of the ugly composite sound wall.

Turds use to always vandalize that old wall with graffiti.

I wonder what Ashcroft plans to do with the rock once it tumbles to the ground. Landfill anyone?
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The "Community" in those groups' names could be swapped out with "Complainers'", and the acronym, and general effect, is unchanged.
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slides from the public meeting, mainly about design guidelines March 4th they will show their proposed design and submit planning applications in mid-March
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slides from the public meeting, mainly about design guidelines March 4th they will show their proposed design and submit planning applications in mid-March
It's too bad they couldn't swap some grass field with the school next door. Exchange the school's frontage on Richmond to a depth of 150 feet for the equivalent amount of greenspace closer to the Byron park. It would seem to make more sense to have a larger street presence on the Traditional Mainstreet.

And the nuns have done a bit better job maintaining their grass than the school board.
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It's too bad they couldn't swap some grass field with the school next door. Exchange the school's frontage on Richmond to a depth of 150 feet for the equivalent amount of greenspace closer to the Byron park. It would seem to make more sense to have a larger street presence on the Traditional Mainstreet.

And the nuns have done a bit better job maintaining their grass than the school board.
That's an excellent point, I completely agree with you. It would've been the right way to go about this. The school gets a yard that is more internal to the block and the Mainstreet frontage gets strengthened over a longer stretch. Right now there's an old, ugly chain link fence right on the Mainstreet and the way this plan is going, it'll stay.
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Everyone hated the playgrounds at Hilson because they were all asphalt; trading in the Richmond-fronting asphalt grounds for the grassed rear convent grounds would be quite an improvement while still leaving the rear asphalt grounds in place for activities that don't work so well on grass.

Of course the neighbours would probably complain about all the noise from the playing children...
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2010, 10:15 PM
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114 Richmond Road Public Meeting
March 10, 2010

Councillor Leadman will be attending this community meeting to answer any questions that may be posed to her. Representatives for the developers will be there to present their plans to those attending.

Where: St. Georges Church

When: 7 to 9 p.m.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2010, 7:03 PM
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I didn't notice this earlier, but Ashcroft also seems to own the "Billy's Appliances" site at 90 Richmond (@Leighton Terrace) as well as the house behind it. It's also shown in their February meeting slides.
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Spacing Ottawa picks up on the exchange idea

Waterloowarrior: the idea mooted in this thread for a "greenspace exchange" for the old convent site is the inspiration for Allegra Newman's latest post on Spacing Ottawa
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2010, 10:20 PM
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^ Good article SpacingOttawa! Another idea that Ottawa could eventually look into (maybe it has already happened in the past?) is using redevelopment to revitalize existing school sites. Here's an example in Toronto where instead of renovating their aging building, the school board sells part of the land for condo towers, and gets a new school building (half of cost paid by developer, LEED Gold), sports field, and pool.






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114 Richmond Road Plans a cause for concern

March 9, 2010

For Immediate Release

In advance of tomorrow night's meeting Councillor Leadman has had a chance to preview the designs for 114 Richmond Rd. being proposed by Ashcroft Homes.

At this early stage, having seen the designs, she has a number of concerns which she has expressed to the developers and staff. Councillor Leadman is alarmed by the impact the current design will have on the community visually from Byron Avenue and Richmond Road as well as the affect the high density and minimal amount of public open space provided will have.

Traffic generated from the site is also a worry for Councillor Leadman, especially the traffic that could be directed right on to residential streets such as Kensington Avenue. She is investigating all of the options available to make the impact of traffic as minimal as possible on residents living on those streets.

As this is one of the most unique properties in the ward with some of the most historical significance, she wants to ensure it is treated with the respect it deserves. She wants the finished development to add to the community and not take away from it.

Councillor Leadman will be attending the meeting tomorrow night at St. George's Church (415 Piccadilly Ave.) from 7 to 9 p.m. She would also like to encourage anyone who is interested in or might be affected by this development to come and participate.

If you need any more information, please contact Councillor Leadman's Office at 613-580-2485 or Kitchissippi@ottawa.ca.
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114 Richmond Road Plans a cause for concern

March 9, 2010

For Immediate Release

In advance of tomorrow night's meeting Councillor Leadman has had a chance to preview the designs for 114 Richmond Rd. being proposed by Ashcroft Homes.

At this early stage, having seen the designs, she has a number of concerns which she has expressed to the developers and staff. Councillor Leadman is alarmed by the impact the current design will have on the community visually from Byron Avenue and Richmond Road as well as the affect the high density and minimal amount of public open space provided will have.

Traffic generated from the site is also a worry for Councillor Leadman, especially the traffic that could be directed right on to residential streets such as Kensington Avenue. She is investigating all of the options available to make the impact of traffic as minimal as possible on residents living on those streets.

As this is one of the most unique properties in the ward with some of the most historical significance, she wants to ensure it is treated with the respect it deserves. She wants the finished development to add to the community and not take away from it.

Councillor Leadman will be attending the meeting tomorrow night at St. George's Church (415 Piccadilly Ave.) from 7 to 9 p.m. She would also like to encourage anyone who is interested in or might be affected by this development to come and participate.

If you need any more information, please contact Councillor Leadman's Office at 613-580-2485 or Kitchissippi@ottawa.ca.
Gee, and here I was thinking that this one would sail through with no controversy at all....
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Gee, and here I was thinking that this one would sail through with no controversy at all....
I almost spat my pepsi reading that one!
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‘Love-in or mushroom cloud’
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Love+mu...767/story.html
Plans for former convent to be unveiled tonight

BY MARIA COOK, THE OTTAWA CITIZENMARCH 9, 2010 11:02 PM


When Ashcroft Homes unveils its proposal for the Sisters of Visitation site in Westboro tonight, “it will either be a love-in or there will be a mushroom cloud,” says Paul Rothwell, Ashcroft’s director of planning and development.

Already, Councillor Christine Leadman, who has seen an image of what is planned for 114 Richmond Rd., says: “It looks institutional. It looks like a fortress. The density is much higher than I feel comfortable with.”

Ashcroft will present plans at a public meeting from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. at St. George’s Church, 415 Piccadilly Ave.

“We think the complex is going to be a marvelous blend of open space and built form,” Rothwell says.

The 100-year-old former convent will be restored and maintained at “enormous” cost, he says.

A series of public paths will connect Richmond Road and Byron Avenue and there will be 12 outdoor courtyards along the way.

Ashcroft will work to save mature trees and the buildings will be set back farther than required by zoning from adjacent Leighton Terrace backyards.

“To do all of that, we’re asking for something in return,” Rothwell says. “We’re asking for some floor space and some building height to be approved here.”

He did not specify height or number of units, but Leadman says the plan calls for two condo towers on Richmond Road of 11 storeys and eight storeys and a five-storey building on Byron Avenue.

The buildings continue in stepped storeys across the Richmond Road frontage, travelling over a two-storey arched portal for pedestrians and cars.

“It’s not open anymore,” Leadman says. “It’s a box-like environment.”

Rothwell disagrees and calls the portal a “fabulous” feature. “When people walk through they’ll have this feeling that they’re entering an enclave. You find yourself standing in this enormous outdoor plaza with the convent to one side, and all redone with (a) restaurant … with this elaborate landscaping.”

Usually, condos are designed to keep the public out, he said.

“We’re doing just the opposite. We’re inviting the public in.”

Leadman says some residents will be unhappy about a road into the complex crossing the Byron Street path.

“You’re adding an automotive element to a pathway and taking away green space and pedestrian space.”

Rothwell says “the planners at the city and transportation people at the city have given the thumbs-up to an entrance off Byron.”

The city’s Ottawa Built Heritage Advisory Committee will hold a meeting on March 18 to consider heritage designation of the site. A report by the city’s heritage planning office is expected to recommend designation under the provincial Heritage Act.

Rothwell says designation is not a concern. “We’ve been working collaboratively with everyone involved.”

Lorne Cutler, of the Hampton-Iona community group, says residents are looking forward to seeing the plans. “Height, density, and traffic impacts are the main concerns. We hope that Ashcroft is going to give the community a chance to respond in a meaningful way before submitting plans to City Hall.”

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Maria Cook posted her full interview with Paul Rothwell of Ashcroft
http://communities.canada.com/OTTAWA...isitation.aspx
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So when can we see some concept art?

Also, Mrs. Leadman, with all due respect....

IT IS A MEDIUM DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN AN URBAN NEIGHBOURHOOD THAT CALLS FOR INCREASED DENSITY AND IS PART OF THE CITY PLAN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE UPHOLDING AS A CITY COUNCILLOR. THE SITE IN QUESTION WAS NEVER OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE SO WHY SHOULD IT MATTER NOW?
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Hmmm, I'm going to predict the "mushroom cloud" option with Ashcroft's design cited at least once as one of the signs of the Apocalypse (along with Lansdowne Live and anything anywhere in Eastern Ontario currently proposed over 10 storeys tall), followed by an OMB hearing.

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So when can we see some concept art?

Also, Mrs. Leadman, with all due respect....

IT IS A MEDIUM DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN AN URBAN NEIGHBOURHOOD THAT CALLS FOR INCREASED DENSITY AND IS PART OF THE CITY PLAN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE UPHOLDING AS A CITY COUNCILLOR. THE SITE IN QUESTION WAS NEVER OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE SO WHY SHOULD IT MATTER NOW?
Westboro is a strange place, all right? There was one guy at tonight's meeting who lives in the Metropole boasting about how he can see into the convent grounds but is complaining that, essentially, that view will now be blocked.

On the other hand, he did point out to all assembled that Ashcroft is marketing the condos across the street partly on the supposed unobstructed views to the south.


It was a packed house tonight...

As for the proposal, it's supposed to be up on Ashcroft's site by the end of the week. I could describe it, but it would take awhile to do it justice. I will say that the 11-storey thing is at the northwest corner and it's the apex of a structure that steps down towards Leighton Terrace. It's got a 2-storey arch on the Richmond side (40' wide by 22' high) that leads into a large "public" courtyard next to the convent. There's an 8-storey building further back near the middle behind the convent and a pair of 5-storey buildings at the back along the school and Leighton Terrace sides, with another courtyard in between. These two buildings are joined together on the Byron side by another archway entrance.

I thought it was a pretty decent proposal, but I have some quibbles with the location of the arch since it doesn't really allow for the convent to be easily seen from the street.
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The power point that they showed at the meeting should be up on the Ashcroft website in about 2 days, according to one of the presenters.

From what I understood at the meeting, it's an interesting plan and with the other Ashcroft properties going up, that part of Richmond will look very different in a few year. Hopefully they will be able to find a good use for the convent itself.

There is a plan for the 8 story building to possibly be a boutique hotel. I think the concept is nice, but the placement of that building, which is in the middle of the property, is a bit strange. That's just a thought and it's not even sure what that building will be for.

It was also so nice to hear some community association heads express their very sophisticated position on development so eloquently to everyone in the room. Honestly compared to some of them Christine Leadman looks like the pro development queen.
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^ Thanks for the updates Dado and Danny!
West Side Action also had a generally positive impression
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