^ No problem. Thanks for your photos and posts too, by the way.
Marina City is the ultimate anomaly, and really is a testament to Goldberg's genius. It broke every rule in the book, and even breaks today's rules. When you boil it down, let's face it: The residential towers are 60-stories of nothing but balconies and parking! Two of the most detested aspects of today's residential high-rises.... And he was so confident, he did two of them right next to each other!
I think the secret to Goldberg's parking situation is the fact that the cars are recessed pretty deeply, allowing the sculptural concrete spirals to become dominant in the composition. He was smart to paint the metal balconies and rails a dark color, so that the other elements could come to the foreground. And, as you say, the darkened areas toward the center of the building are where the cars are, which keeps them out of sight somewhat. It's a kind of solid-void art piece that is so powerful, I even forget there are cars in there a lot of times.
The other part of Marina City that is so wonderful is that it wasn't really designed to be an ultra-luxury, glitzy place. It was a mini-city, a place designed to draw common people downtown to live. I think this ideology helps it get away with showing off the cars. You see the cars coming and going, the entrances to the ramps are not disguised, there are cars driving all over the plaza. The activity and living quality of the towers are a part of the composition.
I'm just trying to point out that Trump and Marina City are a tough comparison, to me at least. Any time you try to do something that is ultra-minimalist, such as Trump, all the fine details get brought to the foreground. The garage at Trump is especially distracting to us because it's such a tightly produced composition, something that is supposed to be swank, refined, and beautiful at all times of day.
I think the good news is that a scrim system or some kind of other interior treatment similar to the painters' tarps could be added at a later time to Trump to adjust the visibilty of the garage, if it turns out to be really off-putting. Since Donald owns the hotel still, I expect him to have a keen eye focused on its public appearance at most times, so this might very well happen. But I don't expect them to tone-down the lighting, since safety and protection of luxury automobiles will probably be critical to the owners. I also wouldn't underestimate SOM - they might already have another trick up their sleeves that we aren't seeing yet.
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BS -- Aon is a great building very much under rated. But this is all off topic, so I will leave it at that.
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Thank you. I second BOTH of those comments.
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