Highway 1 Improvements, 216th to 264th | U/C

[s211]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

One thought on that - tourist traffic is probably going to qualify for the HOV lanes anyway, because there would be more people in the vehicles.

Just what HOV lanes need: RVs and trucks with honking huge recreational trailers on them. I can see that there's no debating with the HOV fanboys.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

One thought on that - tourist traffic is probably going to qualify for the HOV lanes anyway, because there would be more people in the vehicles.

Yes, travel Highway 1 anywhere on the weekends now and the HOV lane is just as busy, most people travelling in groups.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

I have a Chevy Bolt with an "EV OK" sticker, but rarely use it. I don't commute and am hardly ever on the freeway when it's too crowded or moving too slow.

Haha same. It comes in handy on the 99 sometimes though.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by s211

Just what HOV lanes need: RVs and trucks with honking huge recreational trailers on them. I can see that there's no debating with the HOV fanboys.

HOV fanboys? LOL. The purpose of HOV lanes is incredibly obvious. Why do you hate them?

[DKaz]

Originally Posted by s211

Just what HOV lanes need: RVs and trucks with honking huge recreational trailers on them. I can see that there's no debating with the HOV fanboys.

Edmonton and Calgary has lots of wide multilane freeways without the darn HOV lanes and room to expand suburbia infinitely. You should move back here.

[Metro-One]

Ideally the #1 should be widened to 8 lanes for the length of this project (3 general lanes and an HOV / Bus lane in each direction) but I will settle for the addition of an HOV in each direction plus additional climbing lanes and add drop lanes between select interchanges in Abbotsford.

Also maybe the HOV lane east of 200th should only be HOV during peak hours?

Most importantly in this project is that the interchanges at 13 and 11 are not reconfigured but completely rebuilt. I suggest everyone let’s them know that on the survey form.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Also maybe the HOV lane east of 200th should only be HOV during peak hours?

That seems like a decent compromise...

[Klazu]

Yeah, I like that idea. Easy enough to do with digital overhead signs.

[DKaz]

e-Ink road lines so it changes from solid when HOV lanes are active to dashed when it becomes a general lanes? And disappearing HOV diamonds?

[madog222]

General layout for the 232st Interchange including a new 72 Ave overpass as of May 2020, now out of date compared to the design in the spring consultation material.



From BC MOTI https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/t...-no-12523-0002


Edit: Current design as of February 2021:


From BC MOTI https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories...827c5ff9fd412f

[Metro-One]

That’s going to be a big improvement. The current configuration is one of the most dangerous sections of roadway in Metro Vancouver.

[logicbomb]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

That’s going to be a big improvement. The current configuration is one of the most dangerous sections of roadway in Metro Vancouver.

Hands up if you have been cut off by someone not yielding, or nearly t-boning someone at the intersection.

[sweetnhappy]

The loss of the roundabout on the north side for a signalized intersection is disappointing though.

[DKaz]

I'm not a huge fan of the Parclo B interchange with high speed vehicles exitting onto a loop but the interface with 72 Ave makes it necessary. Anything is a huge improvement over what's there right now. The narrow lanes and lack of lighting makes it especially challenging to navigate through at night.

So they're planning to make 232 St go under Hwy 1?

Side question: Does anyone know why there used to be lots of cars parked on the north end of the interchange?

[Tvisforme]

Originally Posted by DKaz

So they're planning to make 232 St go under Hwy 1?

As I understand it, Highways considers the 232nd Street structure to be an underpass because the primary roadway (Highway 1) passes under the lesser roadway (232nd).

[logicbomb]

Originally Posted by sweetnhappy

The loss of the roundabout on the north side for a signalized intersection is disappointing though.

British Columbians generally struggle to understand how roundabouts work, but for some reason, many drivers using this roundabout were completely clueless or intentionally not yielding to other motorists. 232 SB would back up to near the old tracks due to hesitant/indecisive motorists or jerks just gunning through. I hate lights and prefer roundabouts but I understand why the BC MOT is opting for this arrangement.

[Jimbo604]

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/t...264th-widening

Highway 1 - 216th to 264th Widening

Schedule
Functional design was completed in winter 2020
Preliminary construction works begin in spring 2021
Detailed design to be completed in early 2022
Construction will begin in 2022
Construction to be completed in 2025

Another year before they start. Then another three years.

[dharper]

Originally Posted by logicbomb

Hands up if you have been cut off by someone not yielding, or nearly t-boning someone at the intersection.

I find it so stupid that that intersection doesn't have left turn bays.
What bugs me, are the idiots that are NB 232, that want to avoid that intersection, and make a left turn, right by the Do Not Enter sign to go into Chevron.

[sweetnhappy]

Originally Posted by logicbomb

British Columbians generally struggle to understand how roundabouts work, but for some reason, many drivers using this roundabout were completely clueless or intentionally not yielding to other motorists. 232 SB would back up to near the old tracks due to hesitant/indecisive motorists or jerks just gunning through. I hate lights and prefer roundabouts but I understand why the BC MOT is opting for this arrangement.

Fair enough. At least the designs/implementations of roundabouts in BC are for the most part decent and make sense. Having moved to central Alberta, I really miss them since the ones here are atrocious. Absolutely bizarre lane configurations before, inside, and after them.

Originally Posted by dharper

I find it so stupid that that intersection doesn't have left turn bays.
What bugs me, are the idiots that are NB 232, that want to avoid that intersection, and make a left turn, right by the Do Not Enter sign to go into Chevron.

Yeah. The lack of left turn bays in some key areas, such as that one, still baffle me to this day.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by madog222

General layout for the 232st Interchange including a new 72 Ave overpass as of May 2020, now out of date compared to the design in the spring consultation material.



From BC MOTI https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/t...-no-12523-0002


Edit: Current design as of February 2021:


From BC MOTI https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories...827c5ff9fd412f

Whats wrong with keeping the original loop for the exit going westbound drawn in red

See how the combined the east bound ramp and west bound ramp into the same area? Typical BC value engineering. The physics of it are all off

Untitled by Larry David, on Flickr