The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread

[trev71]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Yes. The downtown events centre is designed for a casual fan such as yourself. You're only coming to a few games per year, so you are more than likely to consider it a special event and go out to eat before the game. If you are able to arrive early (to go to the restaurant), then there should be plenty of paid parking options for you to consider. Just make sure your lot is clearly labelled as a public paid parking lot (no booters!!!!!)



I just received the e-mail for season ticket holders too. While the city has been ignoring us, it sounds as if Mr. Irving has been listening to our protestations loud and clear. A pass for seasons ticket holders ensuring parking privileges sounds like the way to go. Now all we need to find out is how much this pass will cost. $10 per night would be $340 per year (regular season only), which is too much. I doubt that the base would agree to much more than about $150 per year. We'll see.

Thanks for the tip. What is the fee (cost) these days for a boot. I never had got one before *knock on wood* I know I seen a guy put one on someones car at a bank parking lot in Fredericton a few years back

[MonctonRad]

Something ridiculous like $185

[MonctonRad]

Cruisin' downtown Moncton (Youtube video) - not bad......

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[MonctonRad]

The Municipal Capital Borrowing Board is having a hearing in Fredericton on March 12th regarding a borrowing request from the City of Moncton (standard operating procedure). This year, the city is looking to borrow ~$34M for various sundry purposes. Amongst all the items listed on the request, a few are of interest:

$200k - food service area, Magnetic Hill
$200k - paving and fountain, Magnetic Hill
$250k - infrastructure & development, Magnetic Hill Zoo
$250k - wall of fame, Downtown Centre
$801k - land & remediation, Downtown Centre
$3,077k - outdoor rink & venue, Downtown Centre
$3,700k - beach replacement, Centennial Park
$3,989k - park and trail development
$1,500k - North End Community Centre
$407k - sidewalk extension, Mapleton Road

There are other items, but these are the ones I found most interesting.

The $1.5M for the North End Community Centre is presumably for initial design work. The $407k for sidewalk extension on Mapleton Road is presumably to extend the sidewalk north of the TCH because of the growing commercial cluster there.

[Bishop2047]

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/n...tore-1.4546733

Cruddy news but I suppose it should have been expected with the bass pro so close, and not needing to compete with themselves.

[MonctonRad]

So, cabinet has apparently approved another new school to be built in Moncton over the next 2-3 years, this time a francophone K-8 school. There is no indication (as of yet) where it will be built.

So, in the next 2-4 years we are going to see these new schools being built:
- Anglophone middle school in the northwest end
- Anglophone replacement school for Hillcrest/Bessborough in the west end.
- Francophone K-8 school somewhere in the city of Moncton.

All this while finishing up construction on the new Francophone K-8 school on Dieppe Blvd, and the spate of other new school construction in the metro area over the last 10 years, including Moncton High School.........

[Ammn_guy]

Wondering if its for Elmwood/Crowly farm/vision lands area, since Champlain moved its fairly far away from Mascaret. I think the irishtown/ammon area kids are bussed way over to shediac rd.

It could logically replace the againg st henri at the same time if it needed to.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

So, cabinet has apparently approved another new school to be built in Moncton over the next 2-3 years, this time a francophone K-8 school. There is no indication (as of yet) where it will be built.

So, in the next 2-4 years we are going to see these new schools being built:
- Anglophone middle school in the northwest end
- Anglophone replacement school for Hillcrest/Bessborough in the west end.
- Francophone K-8 school somewhere in the city of Moncton.

All this while finishing up construction on the new Francophone K-8 school on Dieppe Blvd, and the spate of other new school construction in the metro area over the last 10 years, including Moncton High School.........

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

So, cabinet has apparently approved another new school to be built in Moncton over the next 2-3 years, this time a francophone K-8 school. There is no indication (as of yet) where it will be built.

So, in the next 2-4 years we are going to see these new schools being built:
- Anglophone middle school in the northwest end
- Anglophone replacement school for Hillcrest/Bessborough in the west end.
- Francophone K-8 school somewhere in the city of Moncton.

All this while finishing up construction on the new Francophone K-8 school on Dieppe Blvd, and the spate of other new school construction in the metro area over the last 10 years, including Moncton High School.........

Actually the for the Francophone K-8 School they stated that they are planing to start construction as early as next year acording to the comments from the Education minister.

Also I'm wondering somethin For the English replacement School they say 1.5 Million is set aside for planning but for the Francophone school they stated 2 Million dollars for land aquisition.


Originally Posted by Ammn_guy
Wondering if its for Elmwood/Crowly farm/vision lands area, since Champlain moved its fairly far away from Mascaret. I think the irishtown/ammon area kids are bussed way over to shediac rd.

It could logically replace the againg st henri at the same time if it needed to.

Althought I would agree with you in theory I don't beleive they will be replacing St Henri. The school has undergone some massive renovations since I've gone there the area I had gone to 3rd, and 4th grade is no longer a 4 level red brick building but a single story Main entrance + they did some major cleaning, and replacing all the heating units as well. There is also the Fact that Saint-Henri is curently still one of the major School for the North End.

[MonctonRad]

Things to do in Moncton this week:



BTW - What bar has that neat tin ceiling and chandeliers? That looks really neat!!

[lirette]

Its Third Glass wine bar on main street. Moncton is lucky to have a place like this, I've only been 2-3 times ($$$) but you do not feel like you are in DT Moncton while you are inside. Feels like a bar you would see in Montreal, or NYC.

Believe the chandelier and some of the other decor was imported from Europe.

[lirette]

A new not-for-profit organization was launched today

https://www.facebook.com/lovenbamour/

https://fortheloveofnewbrunswick.ca/

A group whos vision is to gear NBers to change their spending habits 5% towards using NB products and services without spending any additional money

Looks like they will launch their campaign in the spring. Looks awesome! I truely believe in the merit of thinking that we cannot expect the government to fix all of our problems, and sometimes reading the posts here can be exhausting due to that issue.

Lots of videos up on their website and facebook page.

[Ifyoubuildit]

Originally Posted by lirette

A new not-for-profit organization was launched today

https://www.facebook.com/lovenbamour/

https://fortheloveofnewbrunswick.ca/

A group whos vision is to gear NBers to change their spending habits 5% towards using NB products and services without spending any additional money

Looks like they will launch their campaign in the spring. Looks awesome! I truely believe in the merit of thinking that we cannot expect the government to fix all of our problems, and sometimes reading the posts here can be exhausting due to that issue.

Lots of videos up on their website and facebook page.

Agreed 100%. We can only make NB a better place for ourselves and generations to come if we start looking at the glass half full and how WE (not our gov’t) can fill it! This is an awesome idea and time for us all to roll up our sleeves.

[MonctonRad]

Some stats on MID (Moncton & Caledonia Industrial Parks), from Mayor Dawn Arnold's FB page:

Since 1993 (25 years), MID has:

• Sold 856.53 acres/ avg of 35.69 acres per year
• Generated $24 Million in gross sales values (slightly over $1 Million per year avg.)
• Increased the City’s tax base by $400 Million – 294% (represents 12.25% annual growth) from $134Million to $533Million
• Comparative tax revenues increased (based on today’s tax rate) by $9.963 Million 1993 and 2017 – at today’s tax rate 1993 tax base would generate $3.35 Million compared to $13.32 generated in 2017).

Last 5 years, MID has:

• Combined tax base grew by $102Million over last 5 years - $431Million to $533Million – represents 1⁄4 of the previous 24 years of tax base growth
• Combined tax base/annual growth – 23.85% over past 5 years – avg. 4.77%
• Most recent figures tracked over 8000 people employed in our parks, with
over 360 different companies.
• Generated $6.34 Million in gross sales values (over $1.26 Million per year
avg) since 2013

[Scarface]

Does anyone have any info on Soegao Indian Reserve No. 35 Just West of Moncton, and South of Berry Mills. All I got is that it's an administrative part of the Elsipogtog First Nation. Also know it was purchased by the Elsipogtog First Nation in 2017.

It's just a masive wood lot.

[L'homard]

The Elsipogtog first nation bought it a long time ago. Elsipogtog then started the process to annex the property to that first nation a decade or so ago. (I know you're saying they bought it in 2017 but I am confident that is not so - perhaps that was some sort of paper transaction as I know for a fact they bought it a long, long time ago.)
I have zero knowledge of who or what Soegao is.
Initially the plan was to put a casino/hotel/convention centre on the land but that was more than a decade ago and I've heard nothing since. I hope this is a bit helpful.

EDIT: After some thought, I do recall the first nation stating publicly that the casino idea was merely a rumour and not a priority of theirs for that land. They wanted to building a hotel, convention centre, gas bar, some stores and a training centre for firefighters and paramedics.

[MonctonRad]

It's not uncommon for First Nations bands to purchase lands along major traffic corridors and/or on the fringes of major centres. Many First Nations are in remote areas, and if they are looking for revenue streams to support themselves, it makes sense to get new land in more developable locations.

The Red Bank FN recently bought this land off of Harrisville Blvd south of the TCH in Moncton:



If I'm not mistaken, I believe they're going to go so far as actually incorporating this property directly into their reserve, paying the city of Moncton "in kind" for lost property tax revenue.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by L'homard

The Elsipogtog first nation bought it a long time ago. Elsipogtog then started the process to annex the property to that first nation a decade or so ago. (I know you're saying they bought it in 2017 but I am confident that is not so - perhaps that was some sort of paper transaction as I know for a fact they bought it a long, long time ago.)
I have zero knowledge of who or what Soegao is.
Initially the plan was to put a casino/hotel/convention centre on the land but that was more than a decade ago and I've heard nothing since. I hope this is a bit helpful.

EDIT: After some thought, I do recall the first nation stating publicly that the casino idea was merely a rumour and not a priority of theirs for that land. They wanted to building a hotel, convention centre, gas bar, some stores and a training centre for firefighters and paramedics.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

It's not uncommon for First Nations bands to purchase lands along major traffic corridors and/or on the fringes of major centres. Many First Nations are in remote areas, and if they are looking for revenue streams to support themselves, it makes sense to get new land in more developable locations.

The Red Bank FN recently bought this land off of Harrisville Blvd south of the TCH in Moncton:



If I'm not mistaken, I believe they're going to go so far as actually incorporating this property directly into their reserve, paying the city of Moncton "in kind" for lost property tax revenue.

I did find out that it was only incorporated into the reserve in 2017 making it no longer taxable by the government. I din't think first nations would ever pay taxes on purchased land. But aparently it takes time to incorporate land into the Reserve therefore making it untaxable afterwards.

[kirjtc2]

Originally Posted by L'homard

EDIT: After some thought, I do recall the first nation stating publicly that the casino idea was merely a rumour and not a priority of theirs for that land. They wanted to building a hotel, convention centre, gas bar, some stores and a training centre for firefighters and paramedics.

I want to say they did buy the land for the purpose of their casino application back around 2008, before they lost out to the Casino NB group.

[L'homard]

They said that hey never applied to open a casino.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by L'homard

They said that hey never applied to open a casino.

I've been looking into the Elsipogtog ownership it seems a gas station, and potentially restaurant. Along side with a Tim hortons, and Fast Food burger restaurant might have been planned for the area West of Moncton. Potential with a Motel, and Restaurant across the Highway. Hence owning the 2 sides of the Highway but with Motels trying to stay open it's a little hard to make a motel work, and a gas station that far out of the city I doubt people would go unless there road conection had access not only from the TCH but from public roads in the area as well.

As for the Metepanagiag FN Development Off Harisville Road. I'm really not sure why anything has yet to be done. I think there purchasing the land, and planing development was for them to jump on the Harrisville development train early, and because several projects where either cancelled, or curently at a stand still the Metepanagiag FN Development is likelly also at a stand still untill further notice.

Since they don't pay taxes on the land it does not cost them anything wether they keep it, or sell it if I'm corect. So why not keep the land untill the oportunity to develop it finally comes to fruition. I think that might be there mindset as well.