HOUSTON | Development Thread II - Page 606

photoLith · #**12101** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 2:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

Ummm...I've highlighted in red the buildings built in downtown Houston in the same time period on this out-of-date aerial view.

The words "Dallas," "much," "bigger," "than," and "Houston" strung together in that order are fightin' words. Any Texan will tell you that. At least any Texan with a lick of sense. (J/K, of course. Or am I?)

Yes, Houston has densified downtown a ton in the past twenty years, I would know; I lived in Houston House apartments. But, it hasnt add a whole new section to the skyline like Dallas has. I was trying to start an argument over it but Dallas has expanded the downtown a ton to the north of downtown. Houston has densified its downtown, but the skyline hasn't moved away from the core, unlike Dallas. Obviously, theres TMC, The Galleria Area and to some extent new skyscrapers going up in Montrose and around there.

Montrose1100 · #**12102** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 2:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

Ummm...I've highlighted in red the buildings built in downtown Houston in the same time period on this out-of-date aerial view.

The two aerial views taken from Google Maps do not even include the two buildings under construction in the center of this photo taken by Marc Longoria and posted on Flickr.
Nor do they include the 42-story residential tower currently going up near Discovery Green Park.

Houston 4th of July! by Marc longoria, on Flickr

In the time period in question, 4 buildings over 600 feet tall have been built. 2 of those buildings are over 700 feet tall.

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The words "Dallas," "much," "bigger," "than," and "Houston" strung together in that order are fightin' words. Any Texan will tell you that. At least any Texan with a lick of sense. (J/K, of course. Or am I?)

You're missing 1500 Louisiana & Garage next door, Criminal Courthouse, Aquarium, GRB Expansion, Green Street, The Rustic, Surrounding Apartments outside of Downtown (Washington Cooridor, Eado, Midtown), 2 UHD Buildings, South Texas College of Law, The Co-Cathedral, Root Square, The donut apartments catty corner to Houston House, The Hotel a block from Toyota Center, Apartments in the north east corner (by the 59 entrance to Hamilton), YMCA, Fire Station bottom left corner, New Garage (awaiting the Tower next to Market Square), Unfortunately, another garage in front of the old Double Tree/C. Baldwin, BBVA and surrounding apartments, Hamilton, Apartments next to the AT&T building, You highlighted the Hobby Center but not it's garage.

Anyway, good visual

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To all comparing Houston & Dallas. Just stop. We're way more similar than we are different.

Dariusb · #**12103** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 4:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer

Dont know... but Im sure we'll get another tallest. It might even be in midtown somewhere near the light rail line. I'm willing to bet there will be a lot more towers along Allen/Memorial Parkway, Galleria, Greenway Plaza as well.

And the TMC... don't even get me started on the TMC. I'm sure it will rival almost all the other DTs in the US by then.

Houston > *

I remember reading somewhere that TMC rivals downtown Denver in size. That was some years ago. I'm sure it's exceeded it now. Are this rate of adding new towers, all of these high-rise districts will merge and man what a sight that'll be!

The Best Forumer · #**12104** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dariusb

I remember reading somewhere that TMC rivals downtown Denver in size. That was some years ago. I'm sure it's exceeded it now. Are this rate of adding new towers, all of these high-rise districts will merge and man what a sight that'll be!

It will look like bladerunner.

JManc · #**12105** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 5:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by llamaorama

The thing you have to remember about Dallas vs Houston is that Dallas has this whole other old school major city next door called Fort Worth.

DFW’s combined population has always been bigger than Houston but Dallas alone was quite a bit smaller.

DFW passed Houston sometime in the late 80's.

bilbao58 · #**12106** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 5:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Montrose1100

You're missing 1500 Louisiana & Garage next door, Criminal Courthouse, Aquarium, GRB Expansion, Green Street, The Rustic, Surrounding Apartments outside of Downtown (Washington Cooridor, Eado, Midtown), 2 UHD Buildings, South Texas College of Law, The Co-Cathedral, Root Square, The donut apartments catty corner to Houston House, The Hotel a block from Toyota Center, Apartments in the north east corner (by the 59 entrance to Hamilton), YMCA, Fire Station bottom left corner, New Garage (awaiting the Tower next to Market Square), Unfortunately, another garage in front of the old Double Tree/C. Baldwin, BBVA and surrounding apartments, Hamilton, Apartments next to the AT&T building, You highlighted the Hobby Center but not it's garage.

Why...I oughtta...

I considered 1500 Louisiana but decided against it since it was basically complete when Enron collapsed in 2001.

bilbao58 · #**12107** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 5:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by photoLith

But, it hasnt add a whole new section to the skyline like Dallas has.

It kind of has. Pretty much everything east of Houston Center is new, with the exception of the GRB.
Plus these two towers are currently under construction. Is it as impressive as that photo of Dallas? Not yet...
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And lest we forget: Houston's DT skyline is also expanding to the North.

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Originally Posted by photoLith

I was trying to start an argument over it

Freudian slip or admission of nefarious intentions?

bilbao58 · #**12108** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Montrose1100

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To all comparing Houston & Dallas. Just stop. We're way more similar than we are different.

That's just so...so...UNTEXAN!

Montrose1100 · #**12109** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 7:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

Why...I oughtta...

I considered 1500 Louisiana but decided against it since it was basically complete when Enron collapsed in 2001.

Fight me, but not over Dallas vs Houston

1500 Louisiana was completed 2002

The Best Forumer · #**12110** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 7:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by JManc

DFW passed Houston sometime in the late 80's.

Yup. Dont think Houston ever caught up. no worries tho.

The Best Forumer · #**12111** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 7:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Montrose1100

Fight me, but not over Dallas vs Houston

1500 Louisiana was completed 2002

Chess?

bilbao58 · #**12112** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 7:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Montrose1100

Fight me, but not over Dallas vs Houston

1500 Louisiana was completed 2002

OK! FINE! I'll make it red! See if I care! Whatever!

I'm not doing crappy parking garages...just the Lyric Market garage because I like that one... and the Hilton garage that I accidentally did.

The Best Forumer · #**12113** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 7:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

OK! FINE! I'll make it red! See if I care! Whatever!

Whatever happened to this??

bilbao58 · #**12114** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer

Whatever happened to this??

Reality reared its ugly head.

(I never thought that building was worthy of the original two.)

photoLith · #**12115** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 8:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

Freudian slip or admission of nefarious intentions?

I meant wasn't.

Montrose1100 · #**12116** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 8:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

OK! FINE! I'll make it red! See if I care! Whatever!

I'm not doing crappy parking garages...just the Lyric Market garage because I like that one... and the Hilton garage that I accidentally did.

Bless you.

What are you using? Paint 3D?

JManc · #**12117** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 9:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer

Whatever happened to this??

Chevron is not flush with cash as it once was and is contending with declining revenue and market share. Oil and gas in general is a sunsetting industry. I just hope Houston is able to transition away enough to weather the decline in the coming decades.

bilbao58 · #**12118** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 9:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Montrose1100

Bless you.

What are you using? Paint 3D?

Excuse me??? No need to be insulting! I'm using Photoshop 2021, than you very much.

bilbao58 · #**12119** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by JManc

Chevron is not flush with cash as it once was and is contending with declining revenue and market share. Oil and gas in general is a sunsetting industry. I just hope Houston is able to transition away enough to weather the decline in the coming decades.

I hope Houston is able to weather the declining weather!

kingkirbythe.... · #**12120** Posted **Jul 14, 2021, 11:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer

Whatever happened to this??

It was supposed to be an 800 and something footer.