[Saint John] 91 King Street | ?m | ?s | Site Prep

cdnguys · #1 Posted **Apr 6, 2021, 12:32 AM**

Interesting tidbit in common council kit is the economic development agency is entering a month to month lease in the city market tower on Charlotte St - giving credibility to suggestion they may occupy space in Percy Wilbur’s new King’s Square high rise

Joe · #2 Posted **May 5, 2021, 6:18 PM**

More of what's already been said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...shed-1.6014353

adamuptownsj · #3 Posted **May 14, 2021, 6:42 PM**

Demolition starts Monday. Wilbur moves fast!

https://saintjohn.ca/en/news-and-not...Qp9v5RL2-FFJ8I

Night Market confirmed returning as well.

ColSJ · #4 Posted **May 21, 2021, 9:17 PM**

Looks like workers spent the week prepping the area around the building. Likely we’ll see demolition starting Monday.

Helladog · #5 Posted **Jun 2, 2021, 5:25 PM**

Sorry for the poor quality...

Helladog · #6 Posted **Jun 3, 2021, 6:29 AM**

Another Perspective

NB_ExistsToo · #7 Posted **Jun 3, 2021, 1:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Helladog

Another Perspective

This is what it looks like to someone who, after 40 years, still hasn't had an eye appointment in their life, citing "They can see just fine"

Helladog · #8 Posted **Jun 6, 2021, 1:28 PM**

From Percy Wilbur's comments on CHSJ News, it looks like this could be 12-15 stories not including parking...

“We’re in the design stage right now. We are trying to find a grocer or a pharmacy to occupy the street-level commercial retail space. Maybe a financial institution on the lower part of King Street followed by two floors of office/commercial and then nine to twelve stories of apartment buildings and two floors of underground parking,”

Full story, https://www.country94.ca/2021/06/02/...-king-street/#

adamuptownsj · #9 Posted **Jul 17, 2021, 12:46 AM**

Not a bad draft. I'd like to see balconies over King Square vs... pointed at Brunswick Square. Podium is a little '90s sports arena facade'. But definitely a decent starting point. Penthouse floors are interesting.

theshark · #10 Posted **Jul 17, 2021, 1:06 AM**

Saint John is getting some good quality heigh lately, an influx of people living uptown will boost the businesses in the area. How many units are in construction uptown at the moment?

cdnguys · #11 Posted **Jul 17, 2021, 1:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by theshark

Saint John is getting some good quality heigh lately, an influx of people living uptown will boost the businesses in the area. How many units are in construction uptown at the moment?

29 - The Atlantic (almost complete)
83 - The Wentworth (almost complete)
32 - The Telegraph (almost complete)
47 - The Wellington (foundation work)
15 - Ritchie Building (work underway)
180 - The Landmark (construction has not started)

ColSJ · #12 Posted **Jul 17, 2021, 10:10 AM**

I love how well the facade facing King Street incorporates itself in with the existing neighbouring structure and street scrape. I am very pleased with the design and love the height!

nwalbert · #13 Posted **Jul 17, 2021, 11:58 AM**

Impressive project and great signal for SJ to finally have this high visibility location developed with such a high density, high quality project.

OliverD · #14 Posted **Jul 17, 2021, 12:13 PM**

I can't believe people like this design.

Fischbob · #15 Posted **Jul 17, 2021, 12:47 PM**

The design could be better; granted it could also be a lot worse. I appreciate the articulation of the podium to maintain the rhythm of the narrower buildings on King. I'm glad ground/lower floor commercial is being incorporated and that there won't be a garage off of King. The style is somewhat uninspiring IMO. The podium looks like something out of the 80s/90s and the tower and its fenestration is just... odd, almost institutional. I wish they had gone with a bolder and more contemporary design but I understand they probably wanted to play it safe to ensure public buy-in. At least it's not a Spitfire Special.

MonctonRad · #16 Posted **Jul 17, 2021, 12:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by OliverD

I can't believe people like this design.

I very much like the podium. The tower itself, not so much. I wonder if this will change (even a tweak to the cladding or size of the windows would make a difference). I agree with Fischbob - the fenestration ratio in the tower just looks off.........

cdnguys · #17 Posted **Jul 17, 2021, 6:24 PM**

The balconies appear to be mostly inset - gives privacy but also pretty shaded. In this a desirable balcony design for apartments? I have no idea
Prince Edward Sq apartments have them - they look kinda depressing

Uptownini · #18 Posted **Jul 18, 2021, 12:13 PM**

Plans are up for 91 King Street:
https://pub-saintjohn.escribemeeting...ocumentId=8353

Not sure what I think about the renders so far.
If the lower floors are well done, "noone" will notice the upper floors if they turn out rather generic.

adamuptownsj · #19 Posted **Jul 18, 2021, 12:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Uptownini

Plans are up for 91 King Street:
https://pub-saintjohn.escribemeeting...ocumentId=8353

Not sure what I think about the renders so far.
If the lower floors are well done, "noone" will notice the upper floors if they turn out rather generic.

It will be the tallest building on what might be the most prominent point in the city. People will notice a beige box with suburb windows. We have to set higher standards.

MonctonRad · #20 Posted **Jul 18, 2021, 1:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

It will be the tallest building on what might be the most prominent point in the city. People will notice a beige box with suburb windows. We have to set higher standards.

This is my concern. This will be a very prominent addition to the city skyline, and will help define the city. Great care must be taken in it's overall design and character. The podium is acceptable. The tower should be reconsidered.