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Old Posted Aug 9, 2011, 11:14 PM
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Looks like there will be a partial roof around the stadium.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2011, 12:33 AM
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Eisenberger Stadium looks to be a lot more than just a 'paint job'. just wait until we see the rest. I know it will hurt so many people to actually see an awesome stadium.
Too bad it'll be in a part of the city that few people want to go to.
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Appleyby & Burlington Go stations both have Ti-Cats posters saying "You're only x minutes away from the action," or something to that effect. It got me thinking about how great it would be if Hamilton had a station right beside a stadium, like BMO Field/Exhibition in Toronto. Too bad that's never been proposed...
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2011, 9:51 PM
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Chris Murray wants images of the stadium released. So hopefully we'll see it today or tomorrow.
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2011, 11:04 PM
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2011, 11:08 PM
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A bit lacking on detail but I can't say it's terrible. Not really awe inspiring either, though.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2011, 10:14 PM
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Apparently the North stand will be demolished as well. Therefore were getting a whole new stadium. The stadium will hold 22,500 seats, not enough in my opinion. But that's because there isn't enough money.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2011, 11:32 PM
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Apparently the North stand will be demolished as well. Therefore were getting a whole new stadium. The stadium will hold 22,500 seats, not enough in my opinion. But that's because there isn't enough money.
The 22,500 was what they were planning for all along, so it's right on track. I agree it's not enough, but hopefully they will build it with expansion in mind.

Tearing down the whole stadium will also allow them to centre the stadium on the property so that they will have room for expansion in the future.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2011, 1:31 AM
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Just to put those renderings in perspective, this is what Regina is getting: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=188287
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Isn't that Regina plan dead? A $400 million plan with no funding can have the most amazing renderings drawn for it. At least our $150 million stadium is a reality.
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Old Posted Aug 28, 2011, 1:27 AM
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Nope. This was published mere days ago and updated yesterday: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2139515/
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There is a grand plan, I will give you that, but there is no financing lined up for it. It is all well and good to draw up mega-million super-projects, but those renderings are useless without the big bucks to back it up.

If Regina manages to eventually line up the financing to pull this off, then hats off to them. They were unable to firm up the funds for a project with half the price tag, so I'll leave it at that to predict how likely this plan is to come to fruition.

All I know is in the world of reality, Hamilton will be getting a totally new 25K-seat stadium facility as part of our Pan Am participation (not to mention the velodrome and other facility improvements), and as my grandfather would say 'a bird in hand is worth two in the bush'
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Mark, this is the quote from the city managers report to council regarding the size of the stadium.

"Given the direction to build a new North Stands, Infrastructure Ontario has modified the Request for Proposal (RFP) language to reflect construction of a brand new 22,500 seat stadium."

It will not be a 25,000 seat stadium. It will be obsolete or inadequate even before it is built, considering the prime tenant is averaging 24,000 per game right now. Sometimes a bird in hand isn't neccesarily a good thing. They should do it right or not do it at all, especially when they are spending $150 million to do it.
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Duval wondered why the stadium report seems to indicate a complete reconstruction of the Ivor Wynne stands would cost about the same as their original plans for renovation.

“How do we go from a renovation to a complete rebuild at the same cost is beyond me,” he said, noting the original budget is believed to have been highballed. “The number's got to be questioned.”

But Councillor Lloyd Ferguson said the updated stadium budget did not surprise him because he and other councillors had been skeptical of the original one, which was “way too high.”

Ferguson wants to look at what the possible savings would be if they stuck to council's original resolution. “It sounds like the savings will be substantial, so why not apply that money to the velodrome so there's no new funding required?” he said.

The West Harbour was originally the proposed site for the Pan Am stadium and velodrome. At the beginning of the year, council decided to name Ivor Wynne as the Pan Am stadium site. The city committed to funding about 44 per cent of the plan's $155 million budget.

The city then learned in the spring the north stands scheduled to be renovated would not accommodate seats with backs because of the grade, so officials decided to have new stands built.
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Mark, this is the quote from the city managers report to council regarding the size of the stadium.

"Given the direction to build a new North Stands, Infrastructure Ontario has modified the Request for Proposal (RFP) language to reflect construction of a brand new 22,500 seat stadium."

It will not be a 25,000 seat stadium. It will be obsolete or inadequate even before it is built, considering the prime tenant is averaging 24,000 per game right now. Sometimes a bird in hand isn't neccesarily a good thing. They should do it right or not do it at all, especially when they are spending $150 million to do it.
Let's wait for the report and discussion at today's meeting. The way I read this is the Pan Am stadium will be finished in time for the Games with 22,500 high quality seats, all with backs, in brand new north and south grandstands which is a huge change from the backless benches that dominate the current stadium. If anyone misses the backless benches, they don't need to worry as I suspect end zone benches for the western end of the stadium will appear post Pan Am. Incrementing the seat count post Games has regularly been discussed, and the design is already being done to allow additional temporary seating for future Grey Cup games.

No matter what the final permanent seat count is, we will be left with the legacy of a brand new state-of-the-art CFL-ready stadium.
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Let's wait for the report and discussion at today's meeting. The way I read this is the Pan Am stadium will be finished in time for the Games with 22,500 high quality seats, all with backs, in brand new north and south grandstands which is a huge change from the backless benches that dominate the current stadium. If anyone misses the backless benches, they don't need to worry as I suspect end zone benches for the western end of the stadium will appear post Pan Am. Incrementing the seat count post Games has regularly been discussed, and the design is already being done to allow additional temporary seating for future Grey Cup games.

No matter what the final permanent seat count is, we will be left with the legacy of a brand new state-of-the-art CFL-ready stadium.
I hate to say it but you sound like Bratina did on the radio this morning, trying to spin this BS into something good. Inadequate is inadequate, no matter how pretty it looks. Style without substance is useless.

As for Grey Cup games, with the smallest stadium in the league even with temporary seating, they will never play another Grey Cup game in this city.
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Really? The only surprise element was that the football stadium would be a rebuild of both grandstands rather than a rebuild of south stand and renovation of the north stand. And this is a pleasant surprise seeing as costing is not affected by the change.

The course the veledrome has been taking is no surprise either. You would have to be under a rock to not know that the proposal has been evolving from a temporary facility to a permanent one, and that it was now heading to Mohawk. Even the extra costs are in line to what we have been hearing for the past few months. Any councillor who says he was taken off guard by this is being a little disingenuous.
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