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[Siriusly]

The lots don't look nearly big enough compared to the rendering to build towers 3 and 4...

[Surrealplaces]

Originally Posted by i_am_hydrogen

Taken today:

That's a nice shot. This building is really coming along nicely.

[BVictor1]

01/19/08
View to the northwest from 34th and King Drive.

[brett7three]

Originally Posted by biophilic

incredibly goofy maybe.
I wish the towers worked together a little better and showed as more of a "wall" than 4 individual buildings.

I would hope that as the area south of these buildings fills in, that it will give more of a solid "wall" effect.

[Catmendue2]

Originally Posted by biophilic

incredibly goofy maybe.
I wish the towers worked together a little better and showed as more of a "wall" than 4 individual buildings.

I feel the same way. This building is incredible but it looks like several building in one to me too.

[Chicago Shawn]

[somethingfast]

Don't like it. Way too much going on. Just like Dubai 'scrapers. This is a miss for Chicago but height is height...

[Busy Bee]

I understand what's trying to be said about the desire for a 'solid' wall. Though with buildings of this height, conjoining the neighboring structures may actually create an unpleasant physically massive and visually overwhelming superstructure, especially w/ minimalist glass sheathed modern architecture. It seems the ideal conjoined streetwall height is what you see already have on Michigan Avenue and in many places throughout Manhattan—that of buildings in the ~200-400ft range w/ varying styles (but in many cases masonry) and materials. It just may be that the modern glass residential high-rise isn't the best fit for the goal of a literal solid wall of buildings.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

I understand what's trying to be said about the desire for a 'solid' wall. Though with buildings of this height, conjoining the neighboring structures may actually create an unpleasant physically massive and visually overwhelming superstructure, especially w/ minimalist glass sheathed modern architecture. It seems the ideal conjoined streetwall height is what you see already have on Michigan Avenue and in many places throughout Manhattan—that of buildings in the ~200-400ft range w/ varying styles (but in many cases masonry) and materials. It just may be that the modern glass residential high-rise isn't the best fit for the goal of a literal solid wall of buildings.

^ Actually though, the 'south wall' of Grant Park will form a conjoined streetwall at a much lower height (6-8 stories or somewhere around there). So from the viewpoint of a pedestrian looking up, he will see a pretty tall & impressive wall of glass and steel (of 4 different styles) along Roosevelt. But since the buildings are separated above that, light will still be able to stream in.

I guess we can only judge the effect when it's all built, but I'm guessing the "too much like Dubai" argument is probably going to hold true. Is that necessarily a bad thing, though? Chicago is a city that has grown through phases and fads, and perhaps it will have its 'Dubai-esque' fad woven into the urban fabric.

[zerokarma]

good updates

[10023]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

I understand what's trying to be said about the desire for a 'solid' wall. Though with buildings of this height, conjoining the neighboring structures may actually create an unpleasant physically massive and visually overwhelming superstructure, especially w/ minimalist glass sheathed modern architecture. It seems the ideal conjoined streetwall height is what you see already have on Michigan Avenue and in many places throughout Manhattan—that of buildings in the ~200-400ft range w/ varying styles (but in many cases masonry) and materials. It just may be that the modern glass residential high-rise isn't the best fit for the goal of a literal solid wall of buildings.

Right... I think the point some were making (myself included) was that it would have been better to have ~300-400 foot buildings as a sold wall along the south end of the park and along LSD south to McCormick Place (instead of those waste of space townhomes). Then by all means build this tower and other very tall towers as the "second level", much like the buildings that tower behind the Michigan Avenue streetwall or the Central Park South streetwall here in New York. The classic view of the Hancock Center is another example... it's behind the Drake hotel and Palmolive building, which looks MUCH, MUCH better than if the Hancock Center were on Lake Shore Drive across from Oak Street beach.

It would have been better for the south end of Grant Park to be modeled after the west side of the park or the edges of Central Park, rather than after the north end of Grant Park. I don't like supertalls right next to the park, and would much rather have Aon, etc one block back behind a line of shorter buildings as well.

Basically, this is a decent looking building but it doesn't belong on Roosevelt Road, it belongs at 13th and Indiana. And the taller building being planned belongs at 13th and Michigan.

[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by 10023

Right... I think the point some were making (myself included) was that it would have been better to have ~300-400 foot buildings as a sold wall along the south end of the park and along LSD south to McCormick Place (instead of those waste of space townhomes). Then by all means build this tower and other very tall towers as the "second level", much like the buildings that tower behind the Michigan Avenue streetwall or the Central Park South streetwall here in New York. The classic view of the Hancock Center is another example... it's behind the Drake hotel and Palmolive building, which looks MUCH, MUCH better than if the Hancock Center were on Lake Shore Drive across from Oak Street beach.

It would have been better for the south end of Grant Park to be modeled after the west side of the park or the edges of Central Park, rather than after the north end of Grant Park. I don't like supertalls right next to the park, and would much rather have Aon, etc one block back behind a line of shorter buildings as well.

Basically, this is a decent looking building but it doesn't belong on Roosevelt Road, it belongs at 13th and Indiana. And the taller building being planned belongs at 13th and Michigan.

Too late now

I guess we can only judge the effect when it's all built, but I'm guessing the "too much like Dubai" argument is probably going to hold true. Is that necessarily a bad thing, though? Chicago is a city that has grown through phases and fads, and perhaps it will have its 'Dubai-esque' fad woven into the urban fabric.

If that's the case, then less is more. who wants to be that gaudy?

[Nowhereman1280]

Originally Posted by 10023

It would have been better for the south end of Grant Park to be modeled after the west side of the park or the edges of Central Park, rather than after the north end of Grant Park. I don't like supertalls right next to the park, and would much rather have Aon, etc one block back behind a line of shorter buildings as well.

I agree with most of what you say, but I could not disagree with you more that Aon would look better a block back from the park. I love how "BLAM!" Aon is being right on the park and a very bright (whitish) color. I think suck a powerful monolyth as Aon fits perfectly with a whole side exposed.

However with a building like Hancock, since it tapers and has pointy antennae on top, it is much more important to build up to a tip. The same goes for Sears which gradually disintegrates to the Antennae.

Hopefully we'll get this steeped effect by someone else tearing something down south of the Museum Park towers and building a huge ass building, like 2000'...

[Chicago2020]

kblank89/Flickr

[pasadenabinks]

........choking........WOW!!!!!

[aaron38]

^^^Very nice photo.

A night view.

[honte]

I think she's blushing from all of the attention.

From the west, 01.21.08.

[Complex01]

Originally Posted by Chicago2020

kblank89/Flickr

WOW, thats all i can really say...

[DrillCat]

I haven't been here for a while and the Trump thread is gone?
What's the deal, guys?

BTW, I agree with one poster who said that OMP looks like mulyiple buildings put together.
I don't like it either.

Hope OMP West will be different.

[honte]

^ http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...28533&page=130