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Old Posted May 23, 2015, 5:20 PM
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New hotel proposed for King Edward Avenue
Residents blast ‘generic design’ of Holiday Inn plans

By Alex Robinson
Ottawa East News, May 23, 2015




Developers have redrawn a proposal to build a hotel at 364 St. Patrick St. after acquiring four adjacent properties to the lot.

Momentum Planning and Communications presented the plan to build a nine-storey Holiday Inn at the corner of King Edward Avenue and St. Patrick to the Lowertown Community Association on May 11.

The enlarged property gave the developers the chance to partner with Holiday Inn and to build 167 suites rather than the original 90.

“It gave us much more room and gave us more options to explore other hotel chains,” said Dennis Jacobs, of Momentum Planning and Communications. “We’re moving forward with a full service hotel. Before it was an apartment hotel setting.”

Some residents, however, voiced concern over the design of the new Holiday Inn, saying it is not in character with the heritage district west of King Edward Avenue, which is one of the oldest parts of the city.

“It doesn’t take somebody who’s familiar with what Lowertown looks like to come up with something that has some relationship to the rest of the structures,” said Donna Kearns, a resident who sits on the association’s board and has a background in design.

“There are lots of other historic buildings that can be jumping off points.”

Kearns said she would like to see the lot developed, but would rather see something more reflective of buildings in the area and in less of a “generic hotel style.”

Jacobs said the design does take cues from the buildings in its immediate vicinity, which have been redeveloped in a modernistic style, and that it follows the urban design policies of the city’s official plan.

“The design as it currently stands is quite unique and takes advantage of this strategic corner to provide a landmark for people arriving from Quebec, leaving downtown Ottawa, or travelling through Lowertown,” he said. “The proposed masonry (stone and brick) provide a link to the vernacular architecture of the area.”

The city council originally passed a zoning amendment for the property in 2012, allowing for a nine-storey tower to be built on the corner.

When originally proposed, the community voiced concerns over increased traffic at the intersection.

The revised plan would use the enlarged space to build a longer driveway on site to make sure taxis, buses and cars are not stopping on the street to pick up or drop off hotel guests, Jacobs said.

“When we went through the original design process it was a very tight property to begin with… the more we can bring the cars and buses onto the property, the safer it would be. So that was part of our reason for acquiring the neighbouring property,” he said. “It makes for a safer and robust development.”

While the main site will still be nine-storeys high, the adjacent properties will be built up to six storeys. The hotel will also have two levels of underground parking.

The new proposal will only require minor variances and a site control plan approved for construction to start, Jacobs said.

The developers have yet to officially submitted a new application to the city for the proposal.

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I like it. Given the constraints of that site this is one of the best-case scenarios for this site. It looks good and will bring increased pedestrian traffic to King Edward.
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Sad to say, but it looks better than the Andaz.
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I feel bad for architects who have to work that horrible green logo into buildings, in this case it sticks out like a sore thumb. However, the street presence looks quite nice/different.
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I like anything new in this area. This area needs revitalization like no other. Are those apartments still on the drawing board right near this?
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Sad to say, but it looks better than the Andaz.
Yeah but the Andaz render looked good too.
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I like this building. Its different from all sides which is a plus IMO.
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Smile Holiday Inn Hotel

I am sure that King Edward and St. Patrick's street will look far better, when the Holiday Inn hotel is constructed. Those photos of the Holiday Inn hotel look really nice.

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Yeah but the Andaz render looked good too.
Andaz was classic Claridge Bait & Switch. This one looks like it could be alright though.
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Developer hopes new King Edward hotel will open in time for 2017

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: July 13, 2015 | Last Updated: July 13, 2015 5:16 PM EDT


An Ottawa builder’s plan for the largest redevelopment project seen in years along a blighted stretch of King Edward Avenue envisions a new hotel that could open just in time for the city’s 2017 celebrations.

Manor Park Management wants to turn its property at the corner of King Edward and St. Patrick Street into a Holiday Inn with 167 standard rooms, and a dining area and meeting facilities on the ground floor.

The addition of new hotel rooms in the downtown core would come at a time when city officials hope for a massive influx of visitors to mark the 150th anniversary of Canada’s Confederation.

The company originally proposed a nine-storey apartment hotel with two floors of underground parking, but that application was put on hold in 2013. It has since bought up several neighbouring lots, except for an adjacent paramedic station, and redesigned its plan to suit the larger site.

“We were able to take advantage of all three sides of the property — and particularly the frontage along King Edward — to really make it a landmark redevelopment,” said Dennis Jacobs, the private consultant who wrote the application (he’s also the city’s former chief of planning policy).

King Edward and St. Patrick make for a busy intersection, but, he said, the hotel chain is confident the new project will attract tourists and businesspeople who want to stay close to the ByWard Market and hopefully spark further redevelopment along the street. This project alone will cost $22.5 million, he said.

“With the redevelopment that’s happening on King Edward, particularly things like La Nouvelle Scène, it’s bringing back King Edward to what it used to be, which was a very prestigious address,” Jacobs said.

Manor Park has submitted site plan and minor variance applications for the property, which is comprised of several municipal addresses: 235 and 237 King Edward Ave., 364 and 380 St. Patrick St., and 259 and 261 Murray St.

The small block, which feels a bit like a traffic island, is bounded by Murray, St. Patrick and King Edward, and currently consists of a gravel parking lot and three buildings, which will be torn down to make way for the hotel. A Tim Hortons and small used-car lot are across the street on King Edward.

The applications seek to fine-tune the company’s plan to meet the zoning requirements without increasing the overall height of the project, Jacobs said. The tallest section, at the King Edward and St. Patrick corner, is to be nine storeys, but the building will step down to six storeys and then again to two storeys.

Renderings from Woodman Associates Architects show lots of windows on the first two floors, as well as a line of trees and widened sidewalks along King Edward.

If the applications are approved, construction is slated to begin in January, with the hotel to open the following year.

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Developer hopes new King Edward hotel will open in time for 2017

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Published on: July 13, 2015 | Last Updated: July 13, 2015 5:16 PM EDT


...The small block, which feels a bit like a traffic island, is bounded by Murray, St. Patrick and King Edward, and currently consists of a gravel parking lot and three buildings, which will be torn down to make way for the hotel. A Tim Hortons and small used-car lot are across the street on King Edward.....

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I wonder if the writer has ever visited the site? The used car lot has been gone for a couple of months and is now an Enterprise car rental location.
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Question Location of Holiday Inn

Whenever I drove along King Edward Avenue and St. Patrick's Street, I saw no sign of them constructing a Holiday Inn. I saw a sign that they were going to built a Medical or Dental office. They are not going to demolish the Tim Horton's coffee shop nor the Shepherds of Good Hope building. On the right side of King Edward and St. Patrick's street, there are residential houses. Where is the location exactly of the Holiday Inn along St. Patrick's and King Edward?

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It will be very interesting to see how this meshes with the shelters across the street. This is about as big a juxtaposition we have ever seen in Ottawa.
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It will be very interesting to see how this meshes with the shelters across the street. This is about as big a juxtaposition we have ever seen in Ottawa.
False, Salvation Army shelter and the million dollar condos accross the street.
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The inner east (Sandy Hill/Lowertown/the market) is all about the mix. Homeless shelters next to modern condos, commie blocks next to million-dollar homes. Students, urban poor, recent immigrants, wealthy old-timers... all part of the community. It's one of the things I like about the area and one of the reasons why I was drawn to it when I moved here.
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The inner east (Sandy Hill/Lowertown/the market) is all about the mix. Homeless shelters next to modern condos, commie blocks next to million-dollar homes. Students, urban poor, recent immigrants, wealthy old-timers... all part of the community. It's one of the things I like about the area and one of the reasons why I was drawn to it when I moved here.
I am not sure whether having a Holiday Inn hotel close to the market where the homeless are and near Lowertown is a safe area. I find that area near the market and Lowertown too rough. Near the Shepherds of Big Hope, there tends to be many drug addicts, drunkards, and rough people.

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It wants to do the right thing, it has the potential to do the right thing, and yet it still fumbles and stumbles in a couple of respects IMO. The ground floor has to have more doors that open onto King Edward. The restaurant has to be a streetfront operation, for hotel guests and for people going to La Nouvelle Scène, and whoever else ends up walking up and down King Edward. The Murray Street side is too blank and given over to cars. The St. Patrick side is OK - the tucking-in of the vehicular lay-by doesn't unduly tax the public realm and represents an OK way to handle this operational function that hotels always say they need. In doing this, though, they yield to the temptation of turning their back on King Edward, and/or only leaving token glazing as the interface with that side which is -and should be treated as - the real front and most important facade. And, again IMO, the architecture is unsophisticated. It tries to do a few different things and ends up doing none convincingly.
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