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Old Posted Sep 10, 2013, 3:31 AM
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Domicile to develop Sisters’ property in Old Ottawa East

Plans will respect community design plan, bring small retailers to Old Ottawa East

Ottawa East News, Sept 3, 2013
By Laura Mueller


This preliminary sketch shows Domicile's vision for French-style buildings with retail on the ground floor and condos above at the Sisters of the Sacred Heart property at 141 Main St.

OLD OTTAWA EAST - Local developer Domicile has purchased the Sisters’ property on Main Street and plans to construct a building that brings to life the Old Ottawa East community design plan’s vision.

The plans include two buildings with ground-floor retail and around 140 condo units on the five upper floors that will mimic the size and shape of the existing convent at the Sisters of the Sacred Heart property. The 3.5-acre site is located off Main Street between Oblate Avenue and Springhurst Avenue.

“We’re really trying to respect the community that’s already there,” Said David Renfroe, Domicile’s director of business development and planning.

Domicile wants to ensure the project has the least amount of impact on neighbours who live on Springhurst, Renfroe said. “We understand the importance of this project for the overall vision of the Main Street redevelopment.”

Renfroe said the architecture will have a “French flair” with a traditional masonry façade. The units will have large windows and balconies, Renfroe said. In addition to a central park separating the two buildings, Domicile is proposing a rooftop terrace.

Domicile will present its draft plans to the neighbourhood at a community association meeting on Oct. 8 at 7:15 p.m. at the Old Town Hall, located at Main Street and Hawthorne Avenue.

Old Ottawa East Community Association president John Dance had not yet seen the plans, but the proposal sounds “excellent,” he said. Community members will watch the development with great interest because of its potential to contribute to revitalizing the Main Street commercial district, Dance said.

“We are very much in need of better commercial and more residents,” Dance said. “This seems to be exactly that.”

There will be about 1,485 square metres of retail space broken down into nine or 10 small shops that will hopefully attract local business owners, Renfroe said.

“We’re hoping for local retail and small, local businesses,” he said.

Domicile is fine working within the 20-metre height limit set out in the community design plan and secondary plan for the area, but Renfroe said he’s going to ask the city and the community whether they might be willing to add another half a foot onto the height so the retail floor can have slightly higher ceilings, making it more attractive for businesses to locate there.

“We don’t want it to be dark and claustrophobic,” Renfroe said.

If there’s no appetite for that, the zoning and CDP will be respected, Renfroe said.

Dance said he personally thinks that request is reasonable, but it’s not something the community association has discussed yet.

“It’s not the end of the world,” he said, noting Domicile was flexible in extending the width of Main Street in front of the property in order to accommodate the “complete street” vision with bicycle lanes and on-street parking.

Domicile is also looking at providing about 20 more parking spaces than required for the retail portion of the development. That would include a handful of spaces along each street frontage – on Main, Oblate and Hawthorne – that mimic street parking but are located on the property. There would be 150 underground parking spaces for residents.

So far, the initial design process has been the smoothest he’s ever seen, Renfroe said. If that continues, Domicile expects to begin pre-selling units in February of 2014 and constructing the first building next June.

As for any possible future interest in the rest of the Oblate lands adjacent to the Sisters of the Sacred Heart property, Renfroe said Domicile has had an interest in the properties since 2002 and tried to buy the Oblates land in 2007.

“Domicile has an interest to be a bigger player in the Old Ottawa East community,” he said, adding the developer is happy with what’s been happening in the community regarding the community design plan and the reconstruction of Main Street as a “complete street” with cycling tracks.

“We like the direction this area is going in,” Renfroe said.
http://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/n...d-ottawa-east/
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OMG did they not set the building back behind a prophylactic green buffer zone? What if some one walks by on the sidewalk and just, you know, interacts with the building and opens a door and walks right in. Chaos!
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Wait...so where's the retail going to be? The Main St. frontage is very small. I can't imagine it facing Springhill...or the front lawn on Oblate... I know the entire Oblate property is up for redevelopment in the coming years, but retail along the lawn would be really weird before the community is developed.
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Tantalizing preliminary sketches.

But will it be wood construction or steel and concrete?
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Tantalizing preliminary sketches.

But will it be wood construction or steel and concrete?
If it's 4 levels or lower - wood.
If it's Over 4 levels - concrete.
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“It’s not the end of the world,” he said,
OMG, who let this irrational maniac into a community association?!
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OMG, who let this irrational maniac into a community association?!
You think that's the unusual part of this proposal?
It's a low rise proposal done in consultation with the community association, conforming to the traditional main street designation, supportive of the whole street proposal and no huge variance requests. It's the the developer here who clearly doesn't know how things are done in Ottawa.
I'm sure they Domicile be called to task by the developer's association and be obliged to submit a proposal for 24 storeys and 5 years of noise bylaw exemptions. If you're not going to the OMB, you're not doing it right.
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You think that's the unusual part of this proposal?
It's a low rise proposal done in consultation with the community association, conforming to the traditional main street designation, supportive of the whole street proposal and no huge variance requests. It's the the developer here who clearly doesn't know how things are done in Ottawa.
I'm sure they Domicile be called to task by the developer's association and be obliged to submit a proposal for 24 storeys and 5 years of noise bylaw exemptions. If you're not going to the OMB, you're not doing it right.
Clearly you've never been to a community meeting where a neighbour announces, PROUDLY, that if there was no rezoning required THEY WOULDN'T OBJECT, as if it was a great sacrifice to not attempt to pull back existing development rights.

The insanity is a two way street, friend.
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You think that's the unusual part of this proposal?
It's a low rise proposal done in consultation with the community association, conforming to the traditional main street designation, supportive of the whole street proposal and no huge variance requests. It's the the developer here who clearly doesn't know how things are done in Ottawa.
I'm sure they Domicile be called to task by the developer's association and be obliged to submit a proposal for 24 storeys and 5 years of noise bylaw exemptions. If you're not going to the OMB, you're not doing it right.
More than a little cynical, maybe?

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More than a little cynical, maybe?
Isn't cynical what we do best here on SSP: Local Ottawa-Gatineau??
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Isn't cynical what we do best here on SSP: Local Ottawa-Gatineau??
I would add snark and wit, as well!

Totally off-topic: these toenail fungus and PETA ads that recently graced this site are beyond awful. Both yellow toenails and tortured pets are near the top of my list of repellant things.
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I would add snark and wit, as well!

Totally off-topic: these toenail fungus and PETA ads that recently graced this site are beyond awful. Both yellow toenails and tortured pets are near the top of my list of repellant things.
I avoid reading this site while eating now. So gross!
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I would add snark and wit, as well!

Totally off-topic: these toenail fungus and PETA ads that recently graced this site are beyond awful. Both yellow toenails and tortured pets are near the top of my list of repellant things.
Oh, so it's not just me? (The ads, not the toenails) They truly are disgusting.
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What are 'ads'? Do you people not use the Adblock Chrome extension? I haven't seen an ad on the internet in years!!
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I've personally bought adspace on Google so I welcome them, even though they're sometimes not very pleasant.
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If they come back, I'll use the link. Right now it's back to normal stuff (Ford trucks, TD Bank).
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This development is pretty exciting. I like the European influences.

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Oct 17, 2013

Domicile presses forward with retail-condo development

Ottawa East News
By Laura Mueller


After showing a more modern, square structure to community members on Oct. 8, developer Domicile and architect Bruno St. Jean drafted this revision to the design to give it more of a heritage flair.

Residents in Old Ottawa East seemed mostly pleased with a developer's vision for the start of a revitalized commercial district on Main Street.

Domicile is working to build two L-shaped buildings on the front portion of the 1.4-hectare Sisters of the Sacred Heart site on Main Street between Springhurst Street and Oblate Avenue. The plans include two buildings with ground-floor retail and around 140 condo units on the five upper floors.

The plan mostly fits into the vision the neighbourhood helped define as part of its community design plan said David Renfroe, Domicile's director of business development and planning.

"Domicile takes a lot of pride in making this work," he said. "We are putting our best foot forward to make sure that retail corner works with what you guys have envisioned."

A few minor variances will be requested, including a reduction in the visitor parking requirement because the amount of rock under the site means the underground parking garage can only have one level. Residents would access the parking garage from Oblate Avenue.

Domicile also wants a slight increase in the allowed height of the buildings to make way for higher ceilings in the ground-floor retail on Main Street.

Most of the questions and concerns expressed by around 40 residents who attended the meeting focused on the proposal to convert a small section of Springhurst for two-way traffic to allow access to a small interior parking area and loading zone.

Renfroe said that the city already allowed that traffic modification to provide parking garage access for a proposed building on Main Street on the other side of Springhurst, and Domicile wants to extend the two-way section slightly.

While the more modern, sparse structure presented on Oct. 8 was very different from the loose sketches of a heritage-style, French-influenced building Domicile presented at a previous meeting, the style of the building did not ruffle any feathers at the meeting.

Still, Renfroe said Bruno St. Jean of Neuf Architectes is reworking the design to bring it closer to the original "heritage" vision.

"We wanted more time to get the drawings more urban - (to have) a little more passion and French flair," Renfroe said.

Renfroe said both Domicile and St. Jean were not satisfied with the version presented to the community and it will be a work in progress to ensure the corner at Main Street and Oblate Avenue is a gateway into a new community that will rise on those institutional lands.

"We feel that our project is going to be the pulse in the whole development," Renfroe said.

"We want too make sure we do it right."

There was some concern among residents about the possibility of the developer requesting to add an enclosed structure, a "winter reading room," onto the rooftop terrace. The enclosure would be around 65 square metres and would be set back from the edge of the roof, Renfroe said.

Residents seemed comfortable with Domicile president John Doran's comments about his approach to retail: he said he sees the desirable retailers in his buildings as a way to boost the cachet of the community and help him sell condos.

A restaurant or caf? patio is tentatively planned on Oblate Avenue off the Main Street corner.

The Sisters of the Sacred Heart convent will remain on the back portion of the site at least for another 10 years. Bob McElligot, a partner in the project, said his conversations with the sisters indicate they intend to stay there for some time.

The proposal would require some variances but not a full rezoning, so it can move forward rather quickly.
http://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/n...o-development/
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Nice to see even small step backs at the 5th and 6th floors. Folk like Ted Fobert often try to tell us that the economics of kind of thing are "impossible." Try harder?

Also nice to see a low rise bit breaking up the mass of the two mid-rise blocks, that would have been very welcome at that "other Sisters" site on Richmond.

Pretty bland, though, I have to say. Main St is also kind of an odd spot to go for echoes of an industrial/warehouse-style of architecture, given that that is not at all in the vernacular/history of that part of town.
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