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Old Posted Dec 14, 2017, 4:47 PM
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This is an absolutely idiotic proposal that should never be allowed to see the light of day, so we all know it will be approved; little or even no questions asked.

That area is industrial, surrounded by other industrial, an the ideal location for future industrial development. But then again who cares about jobs and industry here when you have a doggy daycare and gourmet muffin shop to look forward to instead.
I just am very confused about the idea of putting 5,000 people in high density construction that far from rapid transit. It's about a 1.6km walk from Braid at the nearest point on the property. It's closer to 2.5km from the far side.

This is almost as bad as the River District in Vancouver for connectivity problems.
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2017, 8:34 PM
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Coquitlam has no waterfront residential, they seem pretty desperate to have some. The garbage facility better move out before they start to sell cause that area can stink on hot days, its disgusting
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Just wait until Surrey starts to want to have their very own "Riverfront"

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Old Posted Dec 15, 2017, 7:35 PM
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If this is approved the whole area is toast.

It will be a land rush by every developer to acquire waterfront parcels to build a new waterfront city center.

Not to mention the increase in assessed values as a result of this will put huge strain on the business owners paying property taxes here.
Why do you think New West and Coquitlam have fought so long and hard over the Bailey Bridge? Land use is a huge part of it as improved access to industrial land increases development pressure. Look at the Brunette Interchange plans and how vehicle connections will improve, specifically if the option chosen has an overpass and direct freeway connection at Blue Mountain.



I agree with your analysis. If this project moves forward (it will) then what about the riverfront land between it and the Skytrain stations? Arguably this land is much better suited for transit orientated development. With this project and new road infrastructure the writing is on the wall. I wouldn't be surprised if Coquitlam pushed development further East too.

The waste transfer system is a complete non issue. The site is already owned by Beedie and the operations are being moved around 2019 (http://www.tricitynews.com/news/new-...-way-1.8709364).

Oh well. As a consolation prize at least the riverfront trail system will be greatly expanded.
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2020 artistic rendering of Fraser Mills in Coquitlam. (Beedie Development Group)

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coqu...r-mills-beedie


2020 artistic rendering of Fraser Mills in Coquitlam. (Beedie Development Group)

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coqu...r-mills-beedie


2020 artistic rendering of Fraser Mills in Coquitlam. (Beedie Development Group)

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coqu...r-mills-beedie


Phasing plan of Fraser Mills in Coquitlam. (Beedie Development Group)
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coqu...r-mills-beedie
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Really wish Coquitlam would focus on Coquitlam Centre first.

Also there are still no solid plans for improving the road connectivity / interchange in the area. (Been put on the back burner / silently dropped by the current government. No longer highlighted on the infrastructure projects page).
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How do you kill this project?
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Really wish Coquitlam would focus on Coquitlam Centre first.

Also there are still no solid plans for improving the road connectivity / interchange in the area. (Been put on the back burner / silently dropped by the current government. No longer highlighted on the infrastructure projects page).
I agree. This project is about putting density where you can put it, not where you should put it.

If they're going to do this, at the very least the 159 route needs to be made into a frequent service.
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Those are some brutally uninspired towers - and not just by concept rendering standards. Is Henriquez still involved, or did they switch to someone cheaper?
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How do you kill this project?
I'm a wait and see guy with this project. I can't see Beedie getting enough out of the project to develop it. They originally were doing town houses and realized to many people still know its on the Metro Vancouver landfill. With a very active transfer site. Which is not going away but just moving a few blocks further north west. So they built tilt ups.
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I'm a wait and see guy with this project. I can't see Beedie getting enough out of the project to develop it. They originally were doing town houses and realized to many people still know its on the Metro Vancouver landfill. With a very active transfer site. Which is not going away but just moving a few blocks further north west. So they built tilt ups.
When did they want townhomes?

And these are condos. Meaning they think even more people are going to buy into high rises in this dump. Says a lot about the state of the RE market. Even townhomes make a tiny bit of sense in comparison, considering cheap townhomes are harder to come by. And yet the smell and traffic are still problems.

Condos right now are too easy money, I don’t have faith Beedie will give up when they went through all the effort so far, as well as public hearings.

They probably will keep trying to develop it into residential until the area is refined back into industrial. The potential profits are too high. I know this area was dezoned off industrial before the last RGS, meaning this is Coquitlam’s fault.
They can’t redone this off residential until Coquitlam does.

Or maybe Industrial/office lease prices stay high and condo residential falls 30-40%.

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Coquitlam has no waterfront residential, they seem pretty desperate to have some. The garbage facility better move out before they start to sell cause that area can stink on hot days, its disgusting
They do have non-ALR land at Murno Creek and Pitt they can turn into a residential community. Makes about as much sense as this project. Just pave Quarry Road. Maybe it'll lead to an opening up of Pinecone Burke.
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Good luck to them. There are fewer sites less suitable for high rise than here.
Between connectivity, soil conditions, and the fact its a garbage dump on a flood plain. The settling issues will be impressive.
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When did they want townhomes?

And these are condos. Meaning they think even more people are going to buy into high rises in this dump. Says a lot about the state of the RE market. Even townhomes make a tiny bit of sense in comparison, considering cheap townhomes are harder to come by. And yet the smell and traffic are still problems.

Condos right now are too easy money, I don’t have faith Beedie will give up when they went through all the effort so far, as well as public hearings.

They probably will keep trying to develop it into residential until the area is refined back into industrial. The potential profits are too high. I know this area was dezoned off industrial before the last RGS, meaning this is Coquitlam’s fault.
They can’t redone this off residential until Coquitlam does.

Or maybe Industrial/office lease prices stay high and condo residential falls 30-40%.
The town house proposal was floated arounf about 10 years ago. As I recall there was a big sign in the corner where they put up the light warehouses.
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Good luck to them. There are fewer sites less suitable for high rise than here.
Between connectivity, soil conditions, and the fact its a garbage dump on a flood plain. The settling issues will be impressive.
Also wondered the same about Bosa's Pier West towers in New Westminster. We all hear about climate change and rising sea levels, so let's build towers beside rivers and oceans!
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I agree. This project is about putting density where you can put it, not where you should put it.

If they're going to do this, at the very least the 159 route needs to be made into a frequent service.
Or reroute of 153 or 156 via Braid, United, King Edward (unfortunately this selection of routes have more or less the same frequency especially during late night/saturday)
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Revised plans for Coquitlam waterfront: 5,500 homes with more rentals, public amenities
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/fras...edie-revisions


April 26, 2022
Developer eyes Granville Island-type project on Coquitlam waterfront
https://www.tricitynews.com/local-bu...rfront-5303342
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Beedie launches 16-tower Coquitlam waterfront dev.
15 years after planning began for Fraser Mills, Vancouver developer ready to begin construction


The 54-year-old president of the development company that shares his name says build-out of the waterfront commercial and residential master plan in Coquitlam will unfold over the next 15 to 20 years.

On Monday, Beedie… announced the official launch of Fraser Mills on an 96-acre site on the shore of the Fraser River.

The first phase will include 300,000 square feet of light industrial, 35,000 square feet of retail and 2,100 homes, with construction of the initial industrial components starting either later this year or early in 2024.

The development will take shape on the site of the former Fraser Mills sawmill. Eventually, there will be 16 towers, with heights ranging from 29 to 49 storeys, as well as low- to mid-rise buildings.

The total plan includes 5,500 new homes, with options for strata and rental properties.
https://renx.ca/beedie-launches-16-t...waterfront-dev

They have submitted development applications for three towers at 32, 38, and 47 stories. The 38fl is a variance over the approved plan and the 47fl is rental.









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They have submitted development applications for three towers at 32, 38, and 47 stories. The 38fl is a variance over the approved plan and the 47fl is rental.
50-50 bet they just take the penalty and only develop the light industrial section before asking for a redo, like Beedie has done every other time with this project.



If it actually goes through, it will take the place in history as one of the worst developments in Canada.


Industrial rates are constantly rising, and the site is near literally no existing commercial district or even really a freeway exit, despite its location.
Everybody has to use Lougheed to exit to the Freeway because of the cancellation of NFPR, which isn't really fun.

It's pretty much a proposal for a condo ghetto, even with the added retail in this development, and will get flooded in any future flood scenario.


The Port should just take it off Beedie's hands and end this endless suffering.
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Industrial rates are constantly rising, and the site is near literally no existing commercial district or even really a freeway exit, despite its location.
Everybody has to use Lougheed to exit to the Freeway because of the cancellation of NFPR, which isn't really fun.

It's pretty much a proposal for a condo ghetto, even with the added retail in this development, and will get flooded in any future flood scenario.
Is this location really that bad? From a motorists perspective, exiting at Brunette and coming down Braid/United or using Lougheed/King Edward is pretty straight forward. Pending traffic it's only 5 minutes off the TCH which is comparable to Brentwood and Lougheed.

And it may be too far to walk, but with decent bus service or a bike there's quite a bit of easily accessible commercial on the other side of the TCH. It's also a very short bike ride to DT New West.
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