CHICAGO | Highrise Projects & Construction, v7

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by ardecila

Well, I certainly agree that we shouldn't fetishize height = density, but it's worth noting that these areas of Istanbul (or Paris, etc) achieve those densities with very small apartments and limited access to natural light.

I don't think midrises in the US will ever be built like that again (the codes simply don't allow it). Under our laws, the only way to get that ultra-density is with true highrises. Micro-units are another option, but I don't see entire neighborhoods being built from those.

In Istanbul it's not necessarily that the apartments are SUPER small. I have some friends who used to live in a dense part of Istanbul and their 1 bedroom wasn't really that much smaller than your typical 1 bedroom in NYC or parts of Chicago. It's that some of these places have had a mass influx of people from Central Asia who will pile people into smaller apartments. Kind of akin sometimes to what happened in Lower East Side in NYC over 100 years ago (but not even close to as dirty as what happened in NYC) but on average maybe not as bad. And they each have a private bathroom unlike 100+ years ago in NYC but that's another story for another day.

Regardless, if you had a bunch of those developments in Chicago even with the US standard apartment sizes you could achieve some great densities.


So just doing the math on this one - if you filled an entire square mile with exact replicas of this development with 226 units each, and the average number of people per unit is 2 then you'd reach a density of 106,479 ppsm entirely with these 9 story buildings...which is still greater than the majority of areas in Chicago right now even with high rises. Maybe a little less in case the number of feet is off a little - I found out it's 387 x 387 in that lot but if it was 400x400 for example then you're still achieving densities of around 80K ppsm.

Sayin'

[sentinel]

Someone posted elsewhere in the forum the 'before' picture..here is the 20 year before and after progress (from reddit user DavidBenAkiva):

[marothisu]

A lot of new stuff, but it would be cool if the picture above was more in a greener month like the below picture. It would make it easier to compare/contrast.

[Steely Dan]

ohhh, nice!

that one is good enough to get cross-posted into the before/after skyline thread.

[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by sentinel

Someone posted elsewhere in the forum the 'before' picture..here is the 20 year before and after progress (from reddit user DavidBenAkiva):

I hadn't realized the BCBS building was done in 2 seperate phases. Thanks for posting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_C...e_Shield_Tower

[harryc]

Feb 10

[harryc]

Feb 10

[BVictor1]

170 N. Green

The Bridgford Project went before the Committee On Design last week, No one was really against anything. There were questions about natural lighting reaching the public passthrough.





The Bridgford project begins at about 1:33:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmUEt9vz1CE

[southoftheloop]

^Wow, Design 2 and Design 4 are interesting

[harryc]

Feb 10

[Chi-Sky21]

Yep, I like 2 and 4 much better! Would have taken 3 also. So of course they do 1!

[sentinel]

The massing of 4 just seems too....massive/bulky.

[thegoatman]

I'll be content with any design, they all look decent. Get this built!

[DCReid]

33-story apartment building planned at Cassidy Tire Warehose site on Canal Street

https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...sidy-tire.html

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by DCReid

33-story apartment building planned at Cassidy Tire Warehose site on Canal Street

https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...sidy-tire.html

This proposal has been out there for awhile - I was hoping it would go away in terms of the design. Such a crap looking design.

[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by marothisu

This proposal has been out there for awhile - I was hoping it would go away in terms of the design. Such a crap looking design.

I think it's a solid simple design with killer corner units for an average 40 fl rental/condo building. I do think it's a crap render though.

[rivernorthlurker]

Isn't the base of the building the same location and height of the Cassidy Tire Building? Are they planning to incorporate it? I know this is an old render by why else include that rectangular base outside the main structure of the high rise that is the same dimensions and in the same place...

Definitely a no for me if they are tearing it down.



via

https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/02/the...dbreaking.html

and

https://www.npr.org/local/309/2019/0...rom-demolition

[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker

Isn't the base of the building the same location and height of the Cassidy Tire Building? Are they planning to incorporate it? I know this is an old render by why else include that rectangular base outside the main structure of the high rise that is the same dimensions and in the same place...

Definitely a no for me if they are tearing it down.

Of course they're tearing it down. We're shit on preservation and incorporation.

[r18tdi]

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker

Isn't the base of the building the same location and height of the Cassidy Tire Building? Are they planning to incorporate it?

Negative. Ald. Reilly should have pushed for a facadectomy that worked the warehouse into the parking podium. Instead, he fought the developers for a tiny dog park ...never mind that there are already two dog parks literally next door at Left Bank and Fulton River Park.

[Rizzo]

No I have to agree on the dog parks, literally next to the entrance. Walk past the residential lobby of block 37. It’s gross.