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Old Posted Jan 5, 2017, 3:50 PM
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Enjoyed the jitterbug and swing dance photos Lorendoc and GW (Frankie Manning is 102!).


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CAPTION: Sally Butterfly Dancing the jitterbug with PFC A. DeFlaminis at the Hollywood Canteen, 1944.

I haven't been able to find anything out about Sally Butterfly, if indeed that's her name. (Or PFC DeFlaminis, for that matter.)

Awhile ago I was looking for examples of jitterbug dancing online. I found this great MGM short that's a humorous instructional
and historical piece about the dance. It culminates in some great dance moves.

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The blond dancer in the Marine uniform () does a jitterbug dance with Charlotte Greenwood in the 1943 color film "The Gang's All Here."
In that film he's credited as Charles Saggau. That film also has swing dancing in Benny Goodman's number "Minnie's in the Money."

There's also a great dance number in the 1943 b&w film "The Powers Girl," where they do a jitterbug number in the pouring rain!
I find an Alfred C. DeFlaminis, born in 1919 in Massachusetts, of Italian immigrant parents, he enlisted in the US Army on July 31, 1944. His father worked in a papermill. He died in Norwood, Massachusetts in 1999. Military records show he was a Master Sergeant by the end of the war.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2017, 3:57 PM
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ER.....that house? In a word...ugly. The columns I would call toothpicks.
It also seems to have little depth, as if it's all facade to make an impression of importance but not much to back it up. The house equivalent of "äll hat and no cattle."
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2017, 3:58 PM
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re: the tree in front of the house with the little girl and the monkey: Looks more like a water-starved magnolia
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2017, 4:13 PM
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ER.....that house? In a word...ugly. The columns I would call toothpicks.
It is very nice inside and except for the overhead shot you have here, you can't really see the house in its entirety from ground level.
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It also seems to have little depth, as if it's all facade to make an impression of importance but not much to back it up. The house equivalent of "äll hat and no cattle."
But the gardens (Descanso) make the house. I'd take it along with all its faults, as the surroundings are exquisite!

Another interesting house in La Canada/Flintridge, is The Lanterman House, built in 1915 or so. Took the tour a couple of years ago; fascinating construction. Sorry, never learned how to post photos, but here's a link:
http://www.lantermanfoundation.org/

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Old Posted Jan 5, 2017, 5:57 PM
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'mystery' location / mislabeled photograph?

The recent discussion on sailors made me think of this noirish photograph I happen upon a couple months ago.

It's attributed to the famous street photographer Garry Wynogrand [1950]


https://artblart.files.wordpress.com...32-008-web.jpg

Even though it's shrouded in fog, I believe the building in the far distance is the Post Office Terminal Annex down by Union Station.

But the majority of websites place the location as New York.


here's ArtBlart


https://artblart.com/tag/garry-winog...politan-opera/




while Slate has it simply labeled 'Sailor, 1950'.



http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/20...ographers.html



and lastly, 'Rena Tobey' has it labeled New York, 1960. (wrong date too?)


http://www.renatobey.com/mesmerized/


Am I way off on this one....

or do you think there's a possibility this is Los Angeles? (it sure feels noirishly L.A. to me)

If it is Los Angeles, I'm still trying to figure out what bridge/viaduct the sailor is walking across.

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Another interesting house in La Canada/Flintridge, is The Lanterman House, built in 1915.
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I love this house!


http://www.passport2history.com/gall...pid=la&mnum=19

Is that Lassie?



And it has a ballroom!?


https://www.kcet.org/history-society...-canadas-first



I haven't had time to read the article (I'm in a rush to return to Lafayette), but I believe there's a scandal involved.(from the heading at kcet)

"Lanterman House: The Enduring Legacy and Forgotten Scandals of La Cañada's First Family"
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Thanks for bringing this house to our attention Andys.
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To be honest I find the home somewhat unattractive.
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I don't like any of James Dolena's larger neo-Georgian efforts. I find them charmless. Symmetry usually helps, but not in Dolena's case. I like some of his smaller homes.

Paul R Williams was brilliant at Hollywood Regency. The master.

S Charles Lee could pull it off on occasion too:

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Undated shot of S Charles Lee's home/studio compound at 1648 Wilshire:

ucla dl

Dolena certainly had his fans among the Hollywood elite, sometimes collaborating w/ Billy Haines, who handled interiors.

It was Dolena who remodeled a Spanish-style duplex for Haines' own home.

Dolena's other clients are listed on his wiki page.

It was George Cukor's Dolena home's pool area which was rebuilt on a sound stage for "Something's Got to Give" (1962, unfinished).

A fisheye lens crams the Descanso house all into one shot:

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PS

The Lanterman House is by AL Haley who also did the Bisbee Inn (St George Hotel) & the Higgins Building. It's listed.

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'mystery' location / mislabeled photograph?

The recent discussion on sailors made me think of this noirish photograph I happen upon a couple months ago.

It's attributed to the famous street photographer Garry Wynogrand [1950]


https://artblart.files.wordpress.com...32-008-web.jpg

Even though it's shrouded in fog, I believe the building in the far distance is the Post Office Terminal Annex down by Union Station.

The majority of websites place the location as New York, 1950.

There are even descriptions of the sailor "walking in the snow"--which I'm not seeing. Winogrand did move west at some point; I think it could be a view toward the east-northeast from, say, the Hill Street overpass over the freeway...which appears to have similar lamp standards...perhaps with the lens bringing the PO Annex closer to the camera... although the angles may not add up. Broadway? Spring? The railings on all these overpasses are very similar to those in the picture. (On Hill Street there appears to be what may be the slope near the famous Ft. Moore waterfall.)




Maybe the metal rail on the overpass extended north where the cyclone fencing is now....


A sample of the lamps and rails, closer to Temple Street...


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Thanks for the follow-up GW. I was beginning to think I was crazy.

I found this amazing.

"Winogrand, who died suddenly at age 56, left behind 2,500 rolls of film that had never been developed and 6,500 rolls of film
that had been developed but never made into contact sheets. At 36 frames per roll, that’s well over a quarter of a million images
that Winogrand made but never looked at."

http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/...retrospective/

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Interesting discussion on the 13 button navy trousers.

I wore my dad's in a Centennial 'pageant' back when I was a freshman in high school. They were so tight I could barely fit into them.

My dad said they were like a cheap hotel....no ballroom.

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More sailor humor, please!

It would also be nice if this great photo below could be attributed to Los Angeles!


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'mystery' location / mislabeled photograph?

The recent discussion on sailors made me think of this noirish photograph I happen upon a couple months ago.

It's attributed to the famous street photographer Garry Wynogrand [1950]


https://artblart.files.wordpress.com...32-008-web.jpg

Even though it's shrouded in fog, I believe the building in the far distance is the Post Office Terminal Annex down by Union Station.

The majority of websites place the location as New York, 1950.
So is the New York location correct?

(I swear I saw one site that named the location as Los Angeles, but I can't find it again.
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I don't like any of James Dolena's larger neo-Georgian efforts. I find them charmless. Symmetry usually helps, but not in Dolena's case. I like some of his smaller homes.
A fisheye lens crams the Descanso house all into one shot:

iamnotastalker

Neither the overhead or fisheye views are very flattering to the Boddy house... I would bet that it has more charm when viewed as a human rather than as a bird or a fish.


As for the Lantermans--great scandal-- more details are googleable, but I think the doctor got in trouble constantly for doing--hmm--"d&cs"-- and sometimes for admiring the goods a little to closely. Thrown in jail on occasion. His son Frank redeemed the family--there is a school named after him that now occupies much of the space of once-leafy St. James Park.

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Oldstuff, thanks for the further info on Hollywood Canteen jitterbugger--Alfred C. DeFlaminis!

And thanks for the articles on Beverly "Bunny" Rush, GW.


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...and a little follow-up on the Beverly Rush case...



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Beverly sounds like a handful, especially if she was 17. (I'm not convinced for some reason.) No wonder she's back home with her parents in Oregon! If she really had all those injuries I wonder why G.E. was found innocent?
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I would bet that it has more charm when viewed as a human rather than a bird or a fish.
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A sample of the lamps and rails, closer to Temple Street...

I didn't see this gsv earlier GW.

The Temple street railing appears to match the railing in Wynogrand's 1950 photograph. Very interesting!

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'mystery' location / mislabeled photograph?

https://artblart.files.wordpress.com...32-008-web.jpg
I guess GW is right. I recognize the white building on the right with the 9 rectangular windows. We've seen it numerous times. It was located on the east sidewalk of Hill Street just south of the back of the Plaza Church. And it seems I see the shape of a gaz tank behind the building.
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Even though it's shrouded in fog, I believe the building in the far distance is the Post Office Terminal Annex down by Union Station.

...and I'm wondering if the building corner seen at far right could be one of the Brunswig buildings we've seen here many times (I didn't reverify to any extent, but I think this is a Brunswig Bldg)....


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By gosh, AlvaroLegido, I hadn't noticed what does indeed seem to be one of our beloved tanks lurking in the background--- So does anyone think this will shake up the art world?
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AlvaroLegido I hadn't noticed the tank!!!!!!!
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I suppose for the find they'll treat us all to lunch at Romanoffs or the Derby.
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Does anyone think this will shake up the art world?
I know you're kidding GW, but it could somewhat.
They'll have to correct the labels in museums and art galleries.

I'm surprised no one has questioned the location before now.
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