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Originally Posted by neilson
Yeah but Unions don't help either. Look at GM, a Union company if there ever was one. Thanks to decades of Union power, when you buy a GM car today there's a certain cost to that car that accounts just for the healthcare given to an employee when the numbers are crunched. I can understand why companies like Wal-Mart are anti-Union. They don't want to see themselves end up withering away on the vine like GM has been. Unions kill companies, and really there's no need for Unions nowadays because there's so much government regulation from workplace safety to benefits and pay that Unions in their current form in North America simply exist to give more power to those at the top. I for one am ready for the day when those like Buzz Hargrove get off their high horse and quit using their Unions to run good companies into the ground thanks to the Union's unrealistic demands.
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Yes, damn that evil autoworker union that brought decent working conditions, decent wages, decent healthcare, decent standard of living to North America.
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Thanks to decades of Union power, when you buy a GM car today there's a certain cost to that car that accounts just for the healthcare given to an employee when the numbers are crunched.
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Well most of that is thanks to the shitty US healthcare system. Thats one of the main reasons GM, Ford and Chrysler loves doing business in Canada. We've got great healthcare in Canada and it saves companies billions.
Most of these healthcare costs are retired employees, something the Japanese manufacturers here dont really have. Maybe in 20 years the tables be more balanced there.
Are you really suggesting that the hundreds of thousands of autoworkes over the years, who have been able to raise middle class families with comfortable lives, should have been reduced to the working poor? That they should not been giving healthcare?
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I can understand why companies like Wal-Mart are anti-Union. They don't want to see themselves end up withering away on the vine like GM has been.
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My first clue Wal Mart is anti union is everything they sell is made in China. Should GM shut down their North American plants and move to China?
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Unions kill companies, and really there's no need for Unions nowadays because there's so much government regulation from workplace safety to benefits and pay that Unions in their current form in North America simply exist to give more power to those at the top.
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I agree unions are big business but what you speak is ridiculous. Judging by the endless parde of lawsuits being filed against WalMart by ex-employees, it doesnt look like government regulations are helping them poor saps much.
Corporations cannot be trusted and government cannot be trusted.
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I for one am ready for the day when those like Buzz Hargrove get off their high horse and quit using their Unions to run good companies into the ground thanks to the Union's unrealistic demands
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Well the autoworkers union here in Oshawa has worked very closely with GM and in the last several years the union have made numerous concessions. The workforce here is almost half of what it use to be. No job security here. Yet they're producing more vehicles then ever. GM's complex here is their biggest and by far their most profitable. The plants win awards every year for being the most efficient auto plants and the workers here take great pride in that. I can guarantee that there would be no pride, no awards, no efficiency if these guys were getting $12/hour and crap benefits.
But as it is, some of these guys make over $100 000 year with overtime and they provide a very comfortable standard of living to their families. I'm sure all this disposable income is better for the overall economy rather then your minimum wage proposal.
GM seems quite happy here they are now in the midst of a $2.5 billion upgrade and expansion here.
I notice you are against decent wages.
I notice you are against healthcare.
I notice you think WalMart great.
I notice you are from Alabama.
So I have to ask.
Did your great old grand pappy own a cotton field or two in his day?
Your right, you cant compete against slavery.