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Old Posted Jul 17, 2015, 2:28 AM
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The original design was 1,348 feet to the architectural top.
This new design is 1,323 feet to the very top.

The new design is 25 feet shorter.
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Can't wait for the terraces to be value-engineered into bland concrete balconies!
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Can't wait for the terraces to be value-engineered into bland concrete balconies!
News Corp is looking for a cutting edge tower. If they wanted to pinch shekels, they'd stay on 6th.

Can you imagine looking at this view each day from the top of 2 WTC?




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The original design was 1,348 feet to the architectural top.
This new design is 1,323 feet to the very top.

The new design is 25 feet shorter.
It's actually 1,340'. Skyscrapercenter figure is incorrect.

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Only in NY, VG!! This city is unreal!!

This is the age of the Ramses!

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Can't wait for the terraces to be value-engineered into bland concrete balconies!
I disagree, it's what the client (NewsCorp) wants. Also all the amenity floors will be located and flow out into each of the terraces.
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Just get the top to 1362. This shouldn't be rocket science. And people will find it meaningful if/when they ever find out.
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Just get the top to 1362. This shouldn't be rocket science. And people will find it meaningful if/when they ever find out.
I second that motion! It would not be surprising though if it did happen. I'll be willing to bet that this tower like it's sisters in the WTC complex will continue to undergo design tweaks, most likely along the north side of the tower. Who knows, with all the attention as of recent, there many be more tenants signing on as well giving greater incentive to built even higher in the coming months.
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Some of those renders that NYguy posted looks like there is no cantilevering part anymore. IDK if that is final or not, but I like it a lot better.
It depends on what side you're standing on. This is the view from the memorial/south side.







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Good to see the side by side.
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Articles have said the height for this is ~1,340, meaning there is no set height as of yet. All we know is it will be around that. Could be shorter or taller.
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Not trying to beat a dead horse or anything, but it was widely noted that James Murdoch did not care for Foster's 2 WTC, which led me to ask: Then why the hell do you wanna move your HQ to 2 WTC? Why not Hudson Yards where things aren't quite as finalized as they are at the WTC site? Or maybe wait for the Midtown East rezoning to take effect so you can start completely from scratch.

If I were Silverstein, I'd tell Murdoch that Foster's design is final and you can either take it or leave it. I know Silverstein is in his 80s and wants to see the complex done before he kicks the bucket, but I always found it a bit nervy and obnoxious on Murdoch's part to barge into the project in that manner, but the apple doesn't fall from the tree in that respect.

That being said, Ingels' tower isn't too bad, could use a more distinctive crown though...
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Not trying to beat a dead horse or anything, but it was widely noted that James Murdoch did not care for Foster's 2 WTC, which led me to ask: Then why the hell do you wanna move your HQ to 2 WTC?
It's where they want to be. It's their preferred location to set up shop. Simple.

If it means securing a major tenant and getting this complex closer to completion, then Silverstein doesn't care if the design changes if that is the anchors wish. You would be nuts to turn down a major potential anchor tenant ibecause you don't want to change the design.

Related was willing to for a couple of their planned towers in the HY, if JP Morgan decided it wanted to be there.
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Not every tower needs a crown. This is an ornate, amazing design and is not remotely a flat-topped box.
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As much as I liked the diamond top, a flat top offers better views and it's the views that sell -- just look at the new super towers lining 57th St. Billionaires Row if you need proof.

Skyscrapers are here to stay and the taller, the better the views will be.
Everyone loves tall buildings!
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If I were Silverstein, I'd tell Murdoch that Foster's design is final and you can either take it or leave it. I know Silverstein is in his 80s and wants to see the complex done before he kicks the bucket, but I always found it a bit nervy and obnoxious on Murdoch's part to barge into the project in that manner, but the apple doesn't fall from the tree in that respect.

That's not the way it works, and any developer would be foolish to try that approach. That's why you have towers with designs not final until well after a tenant signs (see Manhattan West, 30 Hudson, etc.). Silverstein had two towers designed with bases "suitable" for trading floors, but that's not the way the wind blew. The bottom line is to get the space rebuilt and leased. Silverstein was never married to any particular design. And he's well on his way to signing the single largest tenant of the new WTC or in the history of the WTC, so it would be very foolish to pass it up.

Now, here are some of my favorite images of the new tower 2...


























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That tower is stunning!

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Can't wait for the terraces to be value-engineered into bland concrete balconies!
Durst isn't involved in this one.
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BIG's masterpiece will be a great neighbor to Cakatrava's icon!


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Not every tower needs a crown. This is an ornate, amazing design and is not remotely a flat-topped box.
You are right. It is a few flat topped boxes set on top of one another, much more sophisticated.
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Time will tell. Make note of my prediction.
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