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Old Posted Aug 14, 2012, 3:53 AM
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[Richmond] Parc Riviera | Multi-Building | 9 Floors

This has probably been posted in the Suburban updates, but probably needs its own thread.

20 acre master-planned community on the Fraser River just east of the Canada Line Bridge.

http://www.parcriviera.com/index.html


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Old Posted Aug 14, 2012, 7:27 AM
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wow big project out of no where.

Scope: 60,000 m²; 9 storeys; 2 storeys below grade; 26 structures; 1026 units; parking for 1700 cars; 8 acres

its located here for anyone .. http://goo.gl/maps/ASbWy

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Old Posted Aug 14, 2012, 2:41 PM
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The website has been up for some time. The construction (so far just clearing land) has recently started. I believe they are putting up some show suites first.
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Nice to see Richmond continuing its grand tradition of flinging residential development out to areas with no real neighbourhood focus. What's the walkability score of something like that? I guess you could make it to Costco and wheel your buggy back.
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I think we are going to need 4 new bridges to get out of Richmond in a few years.
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This is my first hearing about this. Is this approved?

This seems like a horrible development to me. Not transit accessible, towers in the park across from some pretty heavy industrial and taking the place of existing industrial land.

Two big thumbs down if you ask me.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2012, 3:26 PM
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I agree. Wrong place at the very least.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2012, 4:38 PM
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I ride past this area every day. It was empty for years prior to this proposal, and it's "waterfront".

It's close to Bridgeport, probably a 15-20 min walk to the casino/Bridgeport Station. Not entirely inaccessible. I'd rather see this land used for residential than eat up more prime farmland.
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This land would be better used as industrial, I thought that's what it was zoned for.
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It's about 700 meters from the SkyTrain station, if I measured correctly... which makes it more accessible than the stuff around the Oval, but just barely.

I agree that it seems like the wrong location for this. But I am glad that this area (from here to Duck Island) is starting to redevelop at last. I guess that if the "entertainment district" around Bridgeport Station becomes a reality, then this could be a fairly lucrative place to live.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2012, 5:38 PM
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This land would be better used as industrial, I thought that's what it was zoned for.
There is a big building and lot "for lease" to the west of the Parc site, and several acres of empty land across the Fraser in Vancouver for lease for a few years now, with no takers.

You can zone industrial all you want, but if it sits empty, what's the use?
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Looking at the map, across River Road to the south, there's single family residential - so it is a semi-residential area, even if it is a conversion from industrial to residential.
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It's about 700 meters from the SkyTrain station, if I measured correctly... which makes it more accessible than the stuff around the Oval, but just barely.

I agree that it seems like the wrong location for this. But I am glad that this area (from here to Duck Island) is starting to redevelop at last. I guess that if the "entertainment district" around Bridgeport Station becomes a reality, then this could be a fairly lucrative place to live.
700m? Measuring from the middle of the site (average commute) it's closer to a kilometer and a half according to google maps. Even from the closest corner its still over a km. Not to mention how horrible of a walk it would be along river drive. There arent even sidewalks and you'd have to walk between an electrical substation and industrial lots. Not a safe or desirable place to walk at all.

I think there is very little chance this ends up being anything other than a nearly 100% auto oriented development.

Considering the amount of developable land still near canada line stations its a shame unit absorption is being wasted on a project like this.

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There is a big building and lot "for lease" to the west of the Parc site, and several acres of empty land across the Fraser in Vancouver for lease for a few years now, with no takers.

You can zone industrial all you want, but if it sits empty, what's the use?
Well that could be that the owner has wanted to convert it to residential so they have been overpricing it to keep it vacant in an attempt to argue a rezoning.

From what I know there is a shortage of prime access industrial space in the city.
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Has anyone watched the intro video? The show the entire Mitchel island as a dense forest...
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I went to the show suite about a month ago. It's right next to the Kidd2 electrical substation that is going to get even bigger when they decommission the Granville/Cooney Substation and expand Kidd2 one by 2015. Not exactly prime walking area or a place one wants to live near.
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One could walk or bike to the south on the muli-use pathway. 1.8 km compared to 1.6 km. Still a tad far for a walk in my opinion but a good biking distance.

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The west side of the site looks a reasonable distance from Bridgeport Station - just that the Canada Line maintenace and storage yard is in the way so it's a bit circuitous.
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There is a big building and lot "for lease" to the west of the Parc site, and several acres of empty land across the Fraser in Vancouver for lease for a few years now, with no takers.

You can zone industrial all you want, but if it sits empty, what's the use?
As well to ask of land in the ALR that is sitting fallow because the owner would rather use it as an acreage, why keep it in the ALR - what's the use? Why not rezone it residential?

This is why we should think about an industrial land reserve: there is a need to retain industrial lands as well and it would take speculation out of the equation - so that owners wouldn't overprice their land in order to hold out for a rezoning.

Crappy location for residential. Hope it fails...
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As well to ask of land in the ALR that is sitting fallow because the owner would rather use it as an acreage, why keep it in the ALR - what's the use? Why not rezone it residential?

This is why we should think about an industrial land reserve: there is a need to retain industrial lands as well and it would take speculation out of the equation - so that owners wouldn't overprice their land in order to hold out for a rezoning.

Crappy location for residential. Hope it fails...
Agree, ALR and ILR required. If owners just let the fields fallow for a while it is suddenly snapped up to residential. Isn't that just classic sprawl in the prairies?
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Parc Riveria Monaco - Dava Developments

A mix of 6 storey and 4 storey condo buildings, as well as townhouses. Monaco is the last condo building, currently UC. This site is on the North arm of the Fraser river, and is visible from the Canada line Skytrain bridge. To the east of the site will be a city park and several more townhouse projects, by other developers.





from Richmond Updates thread.
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