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Old Posted Sep 6, 2010, 10:00 PM
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Cathedral Hill [428 Sparks St] | 21f | Completed

http://dalhousiecommunityassociation...pt-1-2010.html

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Cathedral Hill development. This is for the lots of land surrounding Christ Church Cathedral, ie Sparks, Bronson, Queen – most of a city block. DCA board met with proponent on July 21. Church proposes to demolish the 1960’s hall facing Sparks, and 2 houses facing Queen (but keeping and reusing the facades). They will keep Roper Hall, and the Archbishops residence facing west over Bronson. They propose a 20 storey condo tower running N/S through the block where the two houses are now; a new office building (low rise) where the 60’s Hall is; and a new office building of 20 floors on the existing church parking lot facing Sparks. Sparks may be dead ended at the Cathedral. Lots of underground parking, 200 year lease deal, preserved views for The Gardens condo but not others. Public meeting expected in the fall. Generally, we were pleased with the care and thought that went into the proposal.
Church august 15 newsletter
http://www.ottawa.anglican.ca/cathed...st_14_2010.pdf

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PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT MOVING FORWARD — SLOWLY BUT STEADILY

Like the duck who seems motionless on
the surface while its feet paddle furiously
below, property development is moving
steadily forward for the Diocese and the
Cathedral in Joint Venture. Much is soon be
revealed from below the surface!

Having received approval for the proposed Agreement
in Principle with the Windmill Development
Group
last November from both the Diocesan
Council and Cathedral Vestry, negotiators for the
Joint Venture (JV) Property Development Committee
found it necessary to lock up some loose ends
that had not been clearly defined in the draft
Agreement. This was accomplished with Windmill
in late February, including several
improvements to the terms of lease. Windmill then
mobilized a project team to initiate project development.

On 02 June, City of Ottawa planners met the JV
Property Development Committee on site and
reviewed the proposed massing models as
prepared by the Windmill design team. This
productive exchange cleared the path for further
delivery of a site development plan, and completion
of building condition analysis, environmental
assessment and traffic analysis.

It is expected that Windmill will be ready to
present schematic design concepts to the Diocese
and the Cathedral in September and outline
further steps in the project delivery process.
Mission critical density seems to be achievable.

Concurrently, legal documentation has been
prepared to establish a not for profit foundation
to take title of the lands belonging to the Diocese
and the Cathedral for the purposes of development
and to receive revenues from the land lease.

___________________________
There will be a special meeting on Sunday, September
19, at 7 p.m. in Cathedral Hall, to hear a presentation
concerning the Diocesan/Cathedral Joint Venture
property development. We will be joined by members
of Diocesan Council.

In the past three months, Windmill Development Group
have gained considerable momentum with their design
team in advancing this project, including strong consensus
with City officials.

The Joint Venture Property Development Committee is
firmly committed to ensuring that both Diocesan and
Cathedral constituents are well informed with the project
as it proceeds through progressive stages of project
delivery, and in this context the Windmill Development
Group have requested an opportunity to present their
work to date in September, before the formal site development
application goes into the public domain. The
presentation will include work to date on programming,
zoning, massing, sightlines and environmental assessment.

This will also be an opportunity to report on the
status of the lease agreement which is now in its first
draft and under review by legal counsel.

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Old Posted Nov 6, 2010, 2:26 PM
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http://www.ottawa.anglican.ca/cathed...er_10_2010.pdf

Church Cathedral Ottawa has received its first look at what property development plans might entail. Executives from Windmill Development Group outlined the initial plans at a special meeting of parishioners and members of the Diocesan Council last month.

Windmill has worked extensively with the Joint Venture Property Development Committee, the City of Ottawa, heritage officials and an a r chitec tural review committee to arrive at a preliminary design which they anticipate will compliment the heritage nature of the site while
also taking into account its geography and other considerations such as seasonal differences in sunlight, wind and temperatures. (Please see Ex Cathedra, August 15, 2010).

“We are still at a very preliminary stage and there is a lot to figure out for the whole site,” Scott Demark, a partner and project manager with Windmill, said in an interview with Ex Cathedra. “The overall mass and the position of the buildings will likely not change but depending on the input we receive there could be changes to the overall look of the buildings themselves so we are far from having anything finalized in terms of the design.”

The initial site design includes two multi-storied buildings, one to the east and another to the west of the Cathedral and a smaller complex to sit on the present site of Cathedral Hall which will be comprised of town-house units.

The larger complex to the west of the Cathedral will be primarily residential while the one to the East will be primarily used for office space. The initial design also includes plans to convert Lauder Hall back to its orginial purpose as a meeting hall; while the parish offices may be moved into one of the multi-storey buildings .

Roper House will remain at its current location under the initial site plans.

“Our goal from the beginning has been to come up with a design that would integrate a beautiful old building like the Cathedral with a lot of new square footage without overpowering it,” Demark adds.

“Things like sun-pass have been very important design considerations as has the geology of the site, colours and building materials which all need to compliment the existing design of the Cathedral.”

Both the Diocesan Council and Cathedral Vestry approved an Agreement in Principle with Windmill to proceed with a development plan last November. (Please see Ex Cathedra, December 20, 2009). The final lease agreement with Windmill will be reviewed and voted on by parishioners and the Diocesan council at a special Vestry later this fall.

If Windmill gets the green light to proceed, the group hopes to see rezoning for the site in place by next spring and to have a fully mature design in place next summer
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2010, 6:16 AM
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Wow, cool looking project! Let's hope this one gets the green light. I will anxiously await some higher quality and more detailed renderings.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2010, 4:16 AM
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Maria Cook article with a better render
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/enterta...157/story.html

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Oddly enough, I'm getting a Montreal-esque vibe from that concept drawing.
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agreed as its an attempt at something artisticl; a poor attempt nonetheless. It's a terribly ugly stubby box on the exterior shell of our CBD, I really hope their is signifcant changes.
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It defiantly doesn't have a WQW factor.
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I find the rendering of the office building particularly disappointing I wouldn't expect a stone, neo gothic tower, but something that relates more to the cathedral would not seem too much to expect, given the prominence of the location. Give me some slopes or (dare I hope) something other than a flat rooftop.
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Except for the office building, I don't think it looks too bad. If you look at the original rendering above, the office building didn't look as boxy as the new one. I don't know why they changed it. With an office building, condo and commercial space it might bring some life to the area (and it will block some of those older buildings). If that condo is the first thing I see when I drive into the CBD from Lebreton or the Portage Bridge I'd be happy.
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I find the rendering of the office building particularly disappointing I wouldn't expect a stone, neo gothic tower, but something that relates more to the cathedral would not seem too much to expect, given the prominence of the location. Give me some slopes or (dare I hope) something other than a flat rooftop.
Agreed, this is bland beyond belief. This site deserves more. It's not your regular infill. Christ Church cathedral is an important Ottawa landmark, you might say a national one. (Lester B. Pearson's state funeral was held here). At the other end of Wellington Safdie is riffing on neo gothic in glass with the National Gallery. There must be hundreds of architects out there waiting for a similar commission.
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Agreed, this is bland beyond belief. This site deserves more. It's not your regular infill. Christ Church cathedral is an important Ottawa landmark, you might say a national one. (Lester B. Pearson's state funeral was held here). At the other end of Wellington Safdie is riffing on neo gothic in glass with the National Gallery. There must be hundreds of architects out there waiting for a similar commission.
In my dreams, nothing would get built north of the Queensway that was not the outcome of a national design competition - I like to imagine what Centretown could have looked like every time I walk past its dreary urban storage barns for civil servants (well, OK, the new EDC tower is not terrible...).
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Anyone going to the developer’s presentation tonight? I believe it’s at 7:00 at the church. There are supposed to be new display boards and more details about the buildings.

Cheers,
Josh
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I'd definitely go, but sadly I'm out of town at the moment... If you make it out, please report back!
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ouch

i really hope that rendering is proof-of-concept from HOK, nothing to do with any real designs. the whole thing is horrible.

THEY CAN'T MESS THIS UP. this is a huge opportunity to cover up some really nasty old blocks on the western approach of the parkway.
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Its appears the scope has change again for this development. 12 storey office tower and 15-17 Storey residential tower. I didn't make it out to the presentation so I hope some photos or slides will find their way here.

Cheers,
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Ugh 150 elgin, now this, prominent locations getting the rinky dinky little town treatment.. Bahh, the disapointment will never end in this town!
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seriously. my love/hate relationship with ottawa continues unabated....
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Those are just the ugliest buildings proposed at the moment.
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might need to adjust the title: "Amendment requested for 12-storey office and 24-storey residential building"
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