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Old Posted Mar 6, 2018, 11:14 PM
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It's also a matter of "cutting edge" vs "almost passe"
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2018, 11:24 PM
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One of the most noticeable cases of that is the Guess Outlet vs the Guess store.

A lot of people would argue that in general the brand is tacky/gaudy but at least the clothes in the Polo store (or at The Bay) are for the most part decent.. the entire Guess Outlet is just gross. Cheap looking garbage.
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2018, 3:12 PM
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One of the most noticeable cases of that is the Guess Outlet vs the Guess store.

A lot of people would argue that in general the brand is tacky/gaudy but at least the clothes in the Polo store (or at The Bay) are for the most part decent.. the entire Guess Outlet is just gross. Cheap looking garbage.
Their classic Guess branded stuff (what you speak of in the outlet) is making a huge comeback right now. That, along with Kappa, Champion, B.U.M. Equipment, FILA, etc. I've seen Reebok's 2019 collection – they're are going full retro with Reebok Classics and dropping most of their "modern" lines in favour of Adidas growth.
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2018, 10:47 PM
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Hearing at EK Transcona Community Committee on March 13 about changes to the existing Rona Store at 775 Panet Rd


DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
 The applicant is proposing to convert an existing commercial retail store; from a “Rona” to a “Lowes” store. The conversion includes:
o changing store colours and signage;
o enclosing a portion of the existing covered garden centre;
o areas within the existing parking area for seasonal sales and a shed display area;
o new landscaping along Panet Road to assist in screening of the parking lot from residential uses.

I wonder if we will see the St. James (Sargent Ave) Rona store undergo the same conversion leaving the Kenaston Rd store as the only Rona left in Winnipeg unless they close it down due to the short distance from the new Lowe's in the area.
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2018, 3:19 AM
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The Rona on Kenaston is kind of small, and the parking lot isn't great, so wouldn't surprise me if this is the long term plan.
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2018, 3:53 PM
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They are experimenting with different store formats for Rona and keeping that banner of Kennaston as a format test location does make some degree of sense.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2018, 5:30 AM
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They are experimenting with different store formats for Rona and keeping that banner of Kennaston as a format test location does make some degree of sense.
Yeah I heard the smaller stores will remain Rona so Lowes branded stores can properly compete with Home Depot... I just can't imagine that lasting very long.

Like I imagine Lowes will want to be in most areas where there's a HD, but there's more than likely already a Rona at these places, and more than likely they're small. Can Canada really support Home Depot, Lowes, Rona, Canadian Tire and Walmart (the small Rona stores would be like a Canadian Tire/Walmart home improvement area + lumber)? Especially since most big retail nodes will have ALL of these places.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2018, 3:01 PM
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While this is not exactly the flavour of the small store format the Rona in Gimli likely gives a good sense of what the smaller Rona format could be like. It has the most commonly purchased items but doesn't have the same depth in selection of flooring for immediate purchase. There are likely other less used corners cut, "smart home" may be an example but I haven't looked.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2018, 6:37 PM
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Yeah, it'd make sense for them to kind of focus Rona on targeting places like Home Hardware, McMunn & Yates, etc. – especially since Home Hardware doesn't really locate in major cities.

There's some things M&Y offers that HD/Rona don't – specifically smaller quantities of construction supplies. For example, drop ceiling tiles are only available in packs of 10 at HD/Rona, but you can buy individually at M&Y – really nice when you punch a hole in one. Rona may be able to focus on DIY-ers a bit more, and leave bigger contractors to go to Lowes.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 5:03 AM
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Their classic Guess branded stuff (what you speak of in the outlet) is making a huge comeback right now. That, along with Kappa, Champion, B.U.M. Equipment, FILA, etc. I've seen Reebok's 2019 collection – they're are going full retro with Reebok Classics and dropping most of their "modern" lines in favour of Adidas growth.
they have been carrying all those brands heavily at Simons the last 2 or so seasons and the classic Guess shirts along with the the big CK Calvin Klein shirts and Tommy Hillfiger.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 5:14 AM
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Its been like that for a long time.

Most of the stores at the outlet malls carry completely different lines than they do at their conventional stores or online. They generally have different branding with different logos or names.

Gone are the days when outlet malls were filled with overstock from previous seasons or seconds.
The Coach store mens and Coach Factory store mens are really hard to differentiate. The womens though is quite different. The factory stores tend to carry much more Logo goods compared to the full line store. Also the Factory store has an "F" at the front of their serial numbers inside the bags, so if people are into resellers smart buyers know its a Factory bag. Once in a while the Coach factory they will have some past season stuff but it sells really fast.

Polo Ralph Lauren, I can't really spot any difference as to what one can buy at Hudsons Bay, the price is about the same, Socks at hudsons bay will be about $26 and be about $26 at the outlet The Quality seems the same, they just have more of everything and they don't have that great of sales or deals.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 3:05 PM
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Toys R (No Longer) Us is widely expected to enter full on liquidation later this week. Earlier today the UK side announced their plans to do just that. As a privately held company this will likely also take down Canadian operations and see the three Winnipeg stores go dark.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 6:09 PM
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Toys R (No Longer) Us is widely expected to enter full on liquidation later this week. Earlier today the UK side announced their plans to do just that. As a privately held company this will likely also take down Canadian operations and see the three Winnipeg stores go dark.
Especially interesting since Mastermind Toys is expected to expand from its current 60 stores to 90 by 2020.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 6:24 PM
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Toys R Us problem is that it essential got stuck with a lot of debt when the retail market tanked almost ten years ago. It is hitting a tipping point where the loans are about to get called in and there is no way it can round of the cash needed. The pre-Christmas warning was to give notice to any interested parties (ie the big toy industry) they should step up with a buyout/restructuring offer. Nothing came forward so now its time for a full shutdown.

Losing Toys R Us is definitely an opportunity on the market, especially in Canada, as it essentially leaves to market to Walmart and smaller speciality retailers like Mastermind Toys.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 6:28 PM
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Especially interesting since Mastermind Toys is expected to expand from its current 60 stores to 90 by 2020.
Apparently the Canadian side of Toys R Us is in much better shape than it's US counterpart. There's some hope there may be a buyer for the Canadian operations. I hope it comes to fruition, I'm a fan.
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Toys R Us problem is that it essential got stuck with a lot of debt when the retail market tanked almost ten years ago.
Toys R Us's problem is that problem is that it was taken over by vulture capitalists who loaded the company with enormous debt, then asset stripped the cash from the company by paying themselves obscene special dividends and management fees.
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Especially interesting since Mastermind Toys is expected to expand from its current 60 stores to 90 by 2020.
Kite n Kaboodle is still better IMO. Shop local.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 7:08 PM
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Losing Toys R Us is definitely an opportunity on the market, especially in Canada, as it essentially leaves to market to Walmart and smaller speciality retailers like Mastermind Toys.
It's getting to the point where there are few alternatives to Walmart when it comes to toy stores. If Toys R Us goes then it's basically down to Mastermind and small local shops.

Zellers, Sears, The Bay, Eaton's, Consumers Distributing, most regional toy chains... practically all gone now.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 7:42 PM
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Thank god my kids are just out of the toy stage. Probably been a year since I stepped foot in a TrU. I have to say I would likely miss it if it were to be no more.
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Toys R Us's problem is that problem is that it was taken over by vulture capitalists who loaded the company with enormous debt, then asset stripped the cash from the company by paying themselves obscene special dividends and management fees.
There's no question that we live in a time of greed. Pharmaceuticals, retail and what the banks got away with back in 2008? Wow. In Iceland every one of those assholes were sent to jail. In the U.S., nothing. In fact they were bailed out and immediately resumed with multi million dollar bonuses. You couldn't make this shit up. Remember too big to fail? Seems once you're in the very rich club you get away with almost anything.
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