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Old Posted Feb 7, 2017, 9:44 AM
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Yup, and if people want to get these pictures then go through the proper channels, apply for the proper permits, have all safety measures in place. Nothing wrong with getting the pictures but just do it properly and safely.
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This is what has killed the space program/civilisation.

You owe the world that we live in to people who take risks.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2017, 9:50 AM
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Speaking of dying; someone will die from one of these stunts, and probably a few more, and the thoughts about this activity will shift. Once one of these guys gets to watch his friend fall 150m, and then deal with the aftermath, he will realize that his mind had become corrupted by the emotive states danger fosters, and that his buddy dying young, no future, no kids, no partner, no million other experiences, will clearly show that it was not worth it.
Unless they know people who have died more pointless deaths.

Killed driving to work, electrocuted on the job, cancer, heart attack, victim of random assault etc.


I know it's the in vogue thing to believe were all gonna live forever however life is random.

This is something that generation x is really programmed to believe and I think your gonna see a big departure from this viewpoint in the coming century/


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Unlike rock climbing, mountain climbing, backcountry-whatever, slack lining . . . thing done in the wilderness, this activity, on private structures is by definition renegade. I can accept a bit of renegade - base jumpers, tower scalers, tight rope walkers; but you had better really know what your doing, and not using modern safety tackle is 99.99% really stupid. Its like free climbing, except that this is done by super experienced, super talented athletes - and by very very few of them.
This is such a comical division.

Sounds like the opinions of a landed aristocracy to me.
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2017, 2:48 AM
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Stryker, you are tiresome and need to upgrade the level of your reading comprehension.

Compared to you, I probably am an aristocrat. (Now, isn't that a stupid sounding statement?)

I have participated in some (rock climbing, ice climbing, mountain climbing, 1 base jump) of these 'danger activities.' I understand the positive aspect of them as well as the risk. You should stop talking so blase about "what kind of living is worthwhile, and what is pointless." There was nothing pointless about the genetic heart attack that I had. I also know a lot of people who regularly do these thrilling things, or used to. Take my friend who is partially paralyzed from his waste down from jumping his mountain bike too far, he understands the value of life. Or, how about my doctor friend: he almost bled to death in a crevasse (his ice axe cut his neck): he is alive only because he was able to instruct me on how to stop the bleeding before we hauled him out: well, he would never accept your list of pointless deaths. Or, my younger brother, he fell climbing in Yosemite and smacked his head so hard that he has limited short term memory for the rest of his life. He still climbs, but is also now more than happy to risk the drive to work, or getting cancer, or whatever . . . he his incredibly happy to be alive.

So, how about opening your mind to all the innumerable sides of an issue. As is so often the case, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Why is it that people who don't know what they are talking about are often the one's who talk the most?
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2017, 3:41 AM
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Compared to you, I probably am an aristocrat. (Now, isn't that a stupid sounding statement?)
What your point? A bit of admittance of your elitism?

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I have participated in some (rock climbing, ice climbing, mountain climbing, 1 base jump) of these 'danger activities.' I understand the positive aspect of them as well as the risk. You should stop talking so blase about "what kind of living is worthwhile, and what is pointless."
I don't get your point. Your a risk taker I'm pro risk taking what's your point?
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There was nothing pointless about the genetic heart attack that I had.
What is this suppose to mean did you find god or something?
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I also know a lot of people who regularly do these thrilling things, or used to. Take my friend who is partially paralyzed from his waste down from jumping his mountain bike too far, he understands the value of life. Or, how about my doctor friend: he almost bled to death in a crevasse (his ice axe cut his neck): he is alive only because he was able to instruct me on how to stop the bleeding before we hauled him out: well, he would never accept your list of pointless deaths. Or, my younger brother, he fell climbing in Yosemite and smacked his head so hard that he has limited short term memory for the rest of his life. He still climbs, but is also now more than happy to risk the drive to work, or getting cancer, or whatever . . . he his incredibly happy to be alive.
How does this remotely support your renegade stance?

You think risk taking in one group of activities some how mast detracting from another groups activities makes any more sense.


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So, how about opening your mind to all the innumerable sides of an issue. As is so often the case, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Why is it that people who don't know what they are talking about are often the one's who talk the most?
Yawn.
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2017, 1:07 PM
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A dangerously stupid practice.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2017, 11:23 AM
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If the boys wanna climb you'd better let 'em. These kids have a renegade mentality and the thrill is as much in the evasion as the climb itself. They'll always, always, always find a way..

There are some entertaining videos on youtube of parkour kids giving fat, bungling security guys the run around. We know it's irresponsible and someone's got to scrape 'em up but they get paid for it, so..

Times move on. Once it was skateboard/BMX tricks. Now it's skateboard/BMX tricks on the edge of the 60th floor..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbmAnxFPTzE
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2017, 9:02 PM
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A dangerously stupid practice.
Agreed. Mods should shut this thread down not promote this behavior on this site.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2017, 9:05 PM
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You want brave people to build your buildings and yet you criticise these same personality types for exploring them.
Construction workers with years of experience and safety training have nothing in common with these trespassers with go pros.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2017, 9:45 PM
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You don't really believe people will check out this thread, and then go dancing around the rooftops like a crazy daredevil, do you?

Here is another one, complete with ditzy music...

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Old Posted Feb 27, 2017, 1:32 AM
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The fact that it's such an issue seems to be all the more reason to discuss it.

Anyways I call hypocrisy on all of you all.

You want brave people to build your buildings and yet you criticise these same personality types for exploring them.
This stupid thread.

First. There's nothing to discuss here. It's illegal.
Second. My concerns were over visuals.
Third. Are you fucking serious!

I had a kid break and enter and severely injure himself on one of my sites despite the fortune I spent on security. The pending delays from the investigation, the cost of the security guard, the half a million (a guess) in medical costs and, lastly that the kid will never be back to his pre-injured state again are all pointless costs because some kid with underdeveloped senses got the idea from somewhere. Let's make sure it isn't SSP.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2017, 2:29 AM
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There ARE things to discuss. You are not the final word here...

The fact that SOME of the activity is illegal doesn't change that fact.

People will almost always do stupid and crazy things, for a multitude of reasons. What is required are better security, to catch the dumb ones before they get up there, and harsher penalties for those convicted afterwards. Will that cost more? Damn right it will... just like how everyone's groceries cost more because security in all stores everywhere has been needed to be beefed up over time. The same thing will need to happen with highrises, and as a result, each unit or square foot will cost that little bit extra.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2017, 6:18 AM
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This is what has killed the space program/civilisation.

You owe the world that we live in to people who take risks.
Actually "the proper channels" is what created the space program and most civilisation.

People who build spacecraft, aircraft, buildings and bridges and most of other gear put a lot of effort into managing risk. Yes, as a society we take risk but the risk is mitigated to a reasonably acceptable level.

That is the same reason workers are required to wear fall protection above a certain high. The reason they have to be trained before they go up there.

There is nothing special about these photos. For every one of these building there are probably a dozen or more people who have legal access from the owner to be up there, access to the correct PPE and training.

The fact someone is breaking the law and risking their lives and the lives of others to take a photo or video is obscene. What is the point, how does this help society in any way.
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Guys type in "extreme ledge blowjob Toronto" on youporn. You can thank me later.
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2017, 11:12 PM
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Kinda surprised that this hasn't been posted yet .... while her motives have yet to be defined absolutely, given her profile it certainly does align with the mindset in this thread.

In addition to the charges laid, I wonder if she'll also be sued for damages incurred by the Developer and the city??

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‘Woman-on-a-crane’ suspect faces six mischief charges for endangering lives, halting construction in Toronto

Marisa Lazo, the 23-year-old accused in the “woman-on-a-crane” case, was released on bail Thursday as more details emerged about the strange saga that captivated Toronto.

She is charged with six counts of mischief in the incident, where a woman was discovered around 3:30 a.m. Wednesday morning, sitting on the hook of a crane roughly 45 metres above a downtown construction site. The ordeal could cost the condo development project on the site as much as $60,000, according to estimates released Thursday.
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Forcing a fire fighter to put his life at risk to save a girl looking for notoriety/fame instead of saving people/property from actual fires? Hope she spent a few nights in jail, gets fined $30,000+, and a permanent criminal record.

This was not some mentally ill person in need of help. She's a selfish inconsiderate child.
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2017, 12:41 AM
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Do whatever you want, but if you do it without proper care and attention, and expertise, you are stupid. If you do it and harm others because of your stupidity, you are criminal. If you fall on my head, I'll kill you if you haven't killed us both. If you fall harnessed in, you will go home that same night.

Speaking of dying; someone will die from one of these stunts, and probably a few more, and the thoughts about this activity will shift. Once one of these guys gets to watch his friend fall 150m, and then deal with the aftermath, he will realize that his mind had become corrupted by the emotive states danger fosters, and that his buddy dying young, no future, no kids, no partner, no million other experiences, will clearly show that it was not worth it.

Unlike rock climbing, mountain climbing, backcountry-whatever, slack lining . . . thing done in the wilderness, this activity, on private structures is by definition renegade. I can accept a bit of renegade - base jumpers, tower scalers, tight rope walkers; but you had better really know what your doing, and not using modern safety tackle is 99.99% really stupid. Its like free climbing, except that this is done by super experienced, super talented athletes - and by very very few of them.
2 teens dead and a number of others very seriously injured just over a year ago after an accident after hours on the bobsleigh track at Canada Olympic Park in Calgary. The teens entered illegally to take a slide down the track and the stunt ultimately cost two teens theirs lives in what sounds to be a most gruesome way. Some of the other injured teens will probably never fully recover from their injuries. I do not have sympathy for these teens but do care about the innocent people who were affected afterwards, the maintenance workers at COP, the emergency responders, COP management, etc..

Now I'm not saying that I didn't do dumb things when I was a teen or young adult but I did not break into or trespass on property that was private to perform my dumb shit. My brothers and I were also lucky but we also did not take incredible risks such as these Calgary teens - these teens were not dumb by any means and would've been the last teens most would've expected to find in such a situation.
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I also hope she will end up paying the bill for all the hassle she caused.

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^Does it actually cost extra for an operation like this? The only extra cost I can think of would be gas for the fire trucks? I don't know.

Either way, it was a dumb thing to do, and it would have tied up resources and personnel that could have been needed elsewhere.

She's lucky no one was hurt.
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"Woman rescued from crane released on bail."

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/woman-r...bail-1.3387390

I think a huge part of the publicity is because she's rather hot...
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I guess you could say she had a _________ moment!
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