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View Poll Results: Should Canada join the European Union?
Yes 20 26.67%
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2018, 3:13 PM
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Geographically, full EU member Cyprus is actually in Asia.
I guess they defined "European" other than by geography.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2018, 3:27 PM
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I guess they defined "European" other than by geography.
Israel has also been waiting in the wings for EU membership for quite some time. The EU's position has been that they might grant them quasi-membership, due to being pretty European culturally. But this has always bumped into the Palestinian question of course.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2018, 4:00 PM
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Canada shouldn't join the EU, as it would have more of the downsides than upsides.

Canada would have to abide by EU regulations (which are different than North American ones in a variety of industries), lose control of its currency (unless some sort of special exemption was granted) and have to contribute to the EU budget.

Canada's infrastructure wouldn't benefit either as it would be completely isolated, whilst in Europe, the infrastructure of various nations is very closely tied together - electricity, roads and rail.

Movement of people would become an issue and would likely increase the friction at the Canada-US border.

If you think negotiations between provinces are difficult, wait until you get to negotiate between countries.

A free trade pact would likely be the best option for Canada and the EU. It allows goods to flow freely, allows Canada to retain its currency (and by extension, monetary policy) whilst keeping our immigration controls as part of national policy as opposed to international policy.
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Do people just make random threads with random polls now?
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2018, 4:11 PM
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^ Seems like it. I kind of wish there was a Canada skybar subforum to separate the vaguely skyscraper/architecture/design/infrastructure threads from the ones that are totally off topic.
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Do people just make random threads with random polls now?
Sorry sir.

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Old Posted Mar 5, 2018, 5:31 PM
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What kind of free movement do you envision between Canada and the EU?
Just the freedom to live and work anywhere in Canada or the EU. But there would be border controls in the sense that if you land in Canada you'll still have to show documentation (i.e., proof of EU citizenship) to enter (and vice versa -- Canadians would need to show their passport when landing in Europe).
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2018, 7:05 PM
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Hell no! We might as well tie an anchor around our necks.
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Just the freedom to live and work anywhere in Canada or the EU. But there would be border controls in the sense that if you land in Canada you'll still have to show documentation (i.e., proof of EU citizenship) to enter (and vice versa -- Canadians would need to show their passport when landing in Europe).
Several of us here have had this ability accessible to us and we're not even using it
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Outside of Germany and a few of the smaller northern EU nations Europe is an economic laggard. Why would you want to be joined by the hip to an area with massive debt, aging society, and stagnant economies going nowhere for the past 20 years?
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We should also join the African Union while we're at it.
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What about the United Federation of Planets?
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Israel has also been waiting in the wings for EU membership for quite some time. The EU's position has been that they might grant them quasi-membership, due to being pretty European culturally. But this has always bumped into the Palestinian question of course.
The Arabs already think of Israel as being kind of a quasi crusader state as it is. If Israel joined the EU, this would just confirm their worst fears........
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Personally I'd rather Canada join the USA than the EU. Makes more sense, and it would be a lot more useful to me. Where do I sign?
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Germany controls the EU and therefor now controls Europe. I guess they got what they went after 70 years ago just this time without a war.
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Canada should be moving closer to China, who continues to post economic growth around 7%, rather than nations like the US and EU who are in turmoil, maintaining economic growth through dirty wars and exploitation.
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Canada should be moving closer to China, who continues to post economic growth around 7%, rather than nations like the US and EU who are in turmoil, maintaining economic growth through dirty wars and exploitation.
Unlike China which has achieved consistent growth and development through ethical means and while prioritizing human rights?
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We should also join the African Union while we're at it.
Would make about as much sense.
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Unlike China which has achieved consistent growth and development through ethical means and while prioritizing human rights?
like bringing 100's of millions out of poverty, now publishing more scientific articles then the US, and leading the world in sustainable technology and innovations? every time you hear reactionary's use the argument that "everything in the world keeps getting better and it's capitalism"? wrong, it's china. almost all of the decrease in poverty since the 50's has been because of China, not any capitalist country.
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^ Good for China in getting out of the absolute gutter of human development. But I don't think many Canadians would care to see this country get into bed with what is effectively transitioning from a dictatorship of the CPC to a dictatorship of one man in any way that goes much beyond trade issues.
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