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Old Posted Dec 8, 2018, 12:31 AM
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Wow, really shows the difference from 5- 10 years ago. This angle looked the same for many years and it was getting boring.
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Wait, who photoshopped Vancouver's skyline onto DTLA's?
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erhaps the first architectural casualties of the great recession. Not to make anyone cry by opening up old but still sore wounds but... now that the Pereira tumor on the times building isn't being preserved, anybody else agree that Onni should ditch the glass generic boxes it plans to build and instead should dust these off, put their own little modern spin on them and make all of us very happy ? I think these would fit a whole lot better next to the Times building than those glass boxes. Doesn't have to be identical or as tall but defined windows would be nice for a change.
I also agree too much glass will make things bland plus I love the art deco like design of that 90s proposal-build it!!
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I think these would fit a whole lot better next to the Times building than those glass boxes. Doesn't have to be identical or as tall but defined windows would be nice for a change.
There is no context for such buildings here. A single low-rise building in a certain style does not suffice.

For Stern, the context for his Manhattan apartment towers are the pre-war New York apartment homes.

See this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0RA1tkVlFQ
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Perhaps the first architectural casualties of the great recession. Not to make anyone cry by opening up old but still sore wounds but... now that the Pereira tumor on the times building isn't being preserved, anybody else agree that Onni should ditch the glass generic boxes it plans to build and instead should dust these off, put their own little modern spin on them and make all of us very happy ? I think these would fit a whole lot better next to the Times building than those glass boxes. Doesn't have to be identical or as tall but defined windows would be nice for a change.
Ugghh...no. They were heinously proportioned and poorly designed in 2006 and they haven’t gotten any better. I have no problem with Shop or RAMSA, Pelli or others being contextual, but these awful things were always vile and absolutely don’t belong in downtown LA.
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Ugghh...no. They were heinously proportioned and poorly designed in 2006 and they haven’t gotten any better. I have no problem with Shop or RAMSA, Pelli or others being contextual, but these awful things were always vile and absolutely don’t belong in downtown LA.
To each his own, I guess. I think skylines are more interesting with a variety of architectural styles, so I don't really see how something can categorically "not belong" in DTLA. Also, I'm not sure what the concerns are regarding "proportions," skyscrapers are tall.
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Ugghh...no. They were heinously proportioned and poorly designed in 2006 and they haven’t gotten any better. I have no problem with Shop or RAMSA, Pelli or others being contextual, but these awful things were always vile and absolutely don’t belong in downtown LA.
Art deco has a long and proud history in L.A.--Eastern Columbia Bldg, Richfield Tower (torn down), Bullocks Mid Wishire, Wiltern tower just to name a few. This neo-deco twin tower proposal (or something like it) that Caligrad reminds us of would fit right in to the Times Mirror parcel. L.A. would probably have had a few 20 and 30 story art decos/neo classical towers in the pre-depression era if not for the 150 foot height limit that existed until the late 1950s. Better late than never. Build the neo decos Onn please

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There is no context for such buildings here. A single low-rise building in a certain style does not suffice.

For Stern, the context for his Manhattan apartment towers are the pre-war New York apartment homes.

See this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0RA1tkVlFQ
"There is no context for such buildings here"

The grandfather of LAs skyline, City Hall literally across the street, is giving you a mean side eye right now lol. Hell half of the civic center and most of the Broadway corridor would disagree. Take away the height and these types of buildings can be seen all over LA from Long Beach to Santa Monica and they actually look pretty cool sitting next to palm trees.

This ideology is what got LA stuck in architectural limbo in the first place. "IT doesn't fit in LA, there's no context for it". I'm guilty of this as well. People complain about the uniformity of LAs skyline where bunker hill is stuck in the 80s-90s while South Park has turned into glass boxes covered in billboards.

"Ugh we are tired of the glass boxes" yet, when something different gets proposed, we all grab a pitchfork.

But I agree with Colemonkee. Onni cant be trusted with stuff like this since they've even started to value engineer their Vancouver transplants. But since LA is severely lacking high-rises from every decade pre 80s, a little diversity wont hurt. Will only enhance.

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Ugghh...no. They were heinously proportioned and poorly designed in 2006 and they haven’t gotten any better. I have no problem with Shop or RAMSA, Pelli or others being contextual, but these awful things were always vile and absolutely don’t belong in downtown LA.
So what exactly is your beef with them ? yeah they scream faux Palmer but that's why I said a "more modern spin to them" and "doesn't have to be identical or as tall but defined windows would be nice". Yeah, Onni cant be trusted with anything that's neighboring Art Deco but something similar to these next to the times building would be nice. But I agree. RAMSA would do a project like this justice.

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Sunset was stunning this afternoon! Took this near the 6th st bridge.
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^ Now this one is an awesome angle from a bit NE of downtown (not too far from the old general hospital which was also art deco)-great pic!!
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^ Thanks Cesar! The sooner they tear down the old Hooters and start construction on the two new towers there, the better. That graffiti on the vacated building is getting pretty bad.
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^^^ I wonder what is taking them sooo long with the hooters building. Tear it down and start before somebody changes their mind.
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