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Old Posted Jan 27, 2010, 5:12 AM
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Could run sideways, like the one by NBCC on Mountain Rd. Of course, last I saw, that one was still pretty much empty.

As I said it's a rumor. Lots of those! Another is a condo/retail development across from Sobeys Vaughn Harvey.
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Province commits $2.2M to Peace Centre

But Moncton project must secure equal contribution from feds

Moncton Times and Transcript Page A2
Wednesday January 27th, 2010

The dream of a downtown peace centre that will house a number of local community non-profit groups under one roof has taken a major step toward reality.

Minister of Local Government and Moncton East MLA Chris Collins told the Times & Transcript yesterday that the provincial government has committed $2.2 million to a $13.5 million plan to renovate and expand Moncton's Central United Church.

The provincial money is predicated on the federal government contributing an equal amount and the other funds being successfully raised. Collins said, assuming those criteria are met, the money towards construction costs is there for the centre.

Peace Centre spokesman Robert Nuttall was ecstatic when he heard the news yesterday, and said it filled in the last piece of seven years of planning and working.

"It's a tremendous step forward for us," Nuttall said, predicting the facility would be ready to move into by spring 2011. Meanwhile, MAGMA should be moved in this spring, thanks to renovations already being done.

Nuttall praised Collins' work to help get the province on board.

"Chris has been a big supporter of this since he was a (Moncton city) councillor," he said, adding the project has been blessed with considerable bipartisan and widespread public support over the years as well.

Nuttall also said his group recently received a similar letter of intent from the federal government and was confident private lenders were prepared, in light of government funding, to provide the rest of the capital.

Once completed, the facility will house Early Childhood Stimulation Inc., Family Service Moncton Inc., the Multi Cultural Association of the Greater Moncton Area Inc. (MAGMA), United Way of Greater Moncton and Southeastern New Brunswick Region Inc., Volunteer Centre of Southeastern NB Inc. and, of course, Central United Church.

Collins said it was an important investment in emphasizing the importance of downtown.
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It'll be nice to see some infill. I seem to recall that project included a 4 story office component, or something like that.

I'm not crazy about public funds going to religious institutions though.
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It will be valuable infill and will help to spread the "downtown" a bit further northward as well. Downtown Moncton is more than just Main St.

I understand your reservations about government funding for religious institutions but I prefer to think of this as funding for a bunch of social justice organizations rather than funding for the United Church per se. Also, is this much different than the government shovelling money towards the expansion at Crandall University? Personally I would prefer to see a secular public anglophone university in Moncton but I strongly suspect that Crandall will be all we'll get so I'm willing to live with it.

I am intrigued by the concept of using the sanctuary at Central United as a performance space (this is part of the plan). Since this is on the same block as the Capitol and the Empress, this will give downtown Moncton a mini theatre district........
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Your point is well taken. I'd have a much bigger problem with money simply going to the church.


However for the record, I am/was opposed to public funds going to Crandall. Same with the cathedral renos.

In practice, I don't have a problem with church-run programs. I'm just completely opposed to somebody's god taking credit for the public's generosity.
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Once completed, the facility will house Early Childhood Stimulation Inc., Family Service Moncton Inc., the Multi Cultural Association of the Greater Moncton Area Inc. (MAGMA), United Way of Greater Moncton and Southeastern New Brunswick Region Inc., Volunteer Centre of Southeastern NB Inc. and, of course, Central United Church.
A Positive: 6 great institutions centralized in a new, modern building/expansion downtown, creating density in the area.

A Negative: 6 more "For Lease" signs spread around the city once they move. lol
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Moncton Hospital News

The laboratory and emergency/trauma centre moved into the new expansion at the Moncton Hospital last fall but it is only within the next couple of weeks that the actual ambulatory clinics will also be moving. When this happens the expansion will finally be functionally complete. The underground parking garage is also open.

The ACC is now connected to the existing hospital by a very wide corridor. This corridor opened to thru traffic yesterday.

Finally, the official opening of the $48M expansion will be in March. It will be officially known as the Irving Ambulatory Care Centre.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2010, 5:43 PM
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Changes in store for Assumption Place
Published Saturday January 30th, 2010


Assumption Life to seek new tenants once courts move to justice centre
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By Craig Babstock
Times & Transcript Staff

The Moncton justice centre is a much-anticipated piece of infrastructure scheduled to open in the city's downtown this fall.

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Work continues on the justice centre on Assomption Boulevard this week.
While the courthouse will be a new landmark for the city, it also represents major changes on the horizon for an existing landmark in downtown Moncton.

The second and third floors of Assumption Place currently house the Court of Queen's Bench and provincial court, along with office space used by judges, sheriffs, stenographers and other court staff. The first floor also houses a couple of courtrooms in the former NB Liquor outlet and there are other court-related services spread throughout the 20-storey building, such as Crown prosecutors offices, probation offices and victim services.

All of that will be emptied out this fall when the justice centre opens its doors.

"It will be a challenge, because we're looking at filling 50,000 square feet (4,500 square metres) of space," says Robert Moreau, vice-president and chief financial officer of Assumption Life, which owns the building.

Moreau says there is already approximately 350,000 square feet (31,500 square metres) of office space available in Moncton, so there's no shortage of available space. He figures when the courts move out in the fall, it could take as long as six months to do all the renovations necessary to prepare the space for new tenants.

"That's almost close to a million bucks in revenue (lost once the courts move) so no question there will be an impact," he says, adding the courts were in the building for approximately 35 years. "We're looking at new opportunities to fill the space and also this gives us the opportunity to look at our current tenants."

Some tenants are in smaller spaces than they would like and with so much space opening up, it will give Assumption Life the chance to better meet the needs of those clients.

Moreau also says they've begun talking to new tenants, but it will be difficult to sign people up until they have a precise date for when the new courthouse will open and the court-related services move out of Assumption Place. He estimates it could take as long as two or three years to fill all the space with new tenants.

"That's just being realistic," says Moreau.

Work on the $58-million justice centre is well under way on the site of the old Beaver Lumber property at the corner of Westmorland Street and Assomption Boulevard. The building is enclosed, the steel work is done and workers are focusing on things like the electrical systems, elevators and ventilation, according to Ed Doherty, Minister of Supply and Services.

"It's coming along very nicely," says the minister. "It's going to be a big impressive building once it's done, a signature building for the city."

Doherty says the project is on schedule for completion in the fall, but they won't know the exact opening date until the construction is further along.

Moncton Mayor George LeBlanc is eagerly anticipating the final product.

"I've been watching it grow daily from my office at City Hall and I'm looking forward to it," he says. "It's been in the works for a very long period of time."

The new courthouse will be a major change for that part of the city, while a second big change will follow in 2011.

The $40-million Southeast Correctional Centre is under construction on Lino Road in Shediac and scheduled for completion in spring 2011. It will replace the Moncton Detention Centre on Assomption Boulevard and will have 90 units and a maximum capacity of 150. The Moncton jail has capacity of 58 but is always way over.

Doherty says the jail's foundation is well under way and workers are just about to put the steel frame up. The main contract will be awarded in the spring.

It's believed the facility will open in the summer or early fall, once the Department of Public Safety does everything it needs to do to make sure the jail is fully operational. That means the current jail, which is situated on prime real estate, will finally close down.

Doherty says once the jail is closed, it's up to Public Safety to declare it a surplus property. Then it's handed over to Supply and Service for inspection and valuation and then offered to other government departments. If there are no takers, it's offered to the municipality and if there's still no taker, it's put up for general purchase.

"That's a very valuable piece of land," says Doherty.

The mayor says he would love to see that property developed into something people actually want to see downtown.

"What we need downtown is integrated development, consisting of commercial and recreational integrated with residential," says LeBlanc. "There are all kinds of options there and I look forward to talking with the province about what can be done with that property."

Assumption Life owns all the property around the detention centre, which is used for parking. Moreau says the company hasn't actively sought to develop that land once it becomes available, but he agrees it's a prime location. He says there's a perception there isn't enough parking in the downtown, so the future property owner could create a new parking lot, which would help attract more businesses.
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Why didn't they build the jail in the same building as the courthouse?? Thats what I want to know...now they have to pay for the transportation for the inmans to go to court.

Also it would be a sin to take down the old jail and make it just a parking lot. Moncton needs parking garages...they take up less space.
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Did you guys hear? Chateau à Pape downtown burnt this morning. It's still standing but it suffered major damages. The roof is practically gone in one section and there is obvious severe damage to the second floor. If I'm not mistaken that was a designated heritage site. I found a link that shows the damage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOEuV-suxVQ
It's too bad. That was a nice building.
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I wonder if the ownners of the Chateau à Pape had enough insurance to rebuild this rare historic site. I'd hate to see another interesting building lost to Moncton.
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Re: Jail

I'd be a terrible shame to see that place knocked down and replaced by yet another surface lot.

Re. Chateau a Pape

I hope they rebuild. It'd be a shame to lose it.
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I wonder why?!?!

Maybe there had been talk about this before, Why hasn't the government or whoever takes care of the Trans Canada build an overpass just east of the Elmwood exit by the CNR tracks...the highway can maintain the same height and cross the CNR tracks that lead into the Caledonia industrial park.

I hate coming to that crossing by train because we have to crawl to it and then once the lights n bells are activated we cannot cross for 20 seconds....its up hill there for northward travel and in 100% of the cases, we're fully loaded with Propane, grain, lumber and LIQUID AIR. It takes a while to get going once we've stopped on this uphill grade.

Just looking at that area, why don't they work on this, even if they work on one side of the highway at a time, kinda sucks if you're going 120km/h and you crest a hill and a train is in front of you. I'm surprised there hasn't been an accident there. We go there at least 3 times a week, hopefully more as the economy picks up.
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Same reason why you hit an at-grade intersection on a highway at Botsford and Wheeler: Cash.
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Moncton's casino on track for May opening
Published Monday February 1st, 2010

GM hopes gaming complex will be another draw in developing Moncton's potential
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Construction continues according to plan and the glitz, glamour and excitement of Casino New Brunswick is still on schedule to welcome the public early in May.

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Construction of Casino New Brunswick at Magnetic Hill is flying along, with the casino part set to open on May 1 and the rest of the facility in mid June.
"They are already dry walling, painting and tiling, so everything is going according to plan," said Steve Hancock, the general manager of the destination gaming complex, which will include a 128-room hotel and 1,500-seat Palladium theatre. "Probably everything should be set in place about middle of April and then it's just finetune training."

Sonco Gaming New Brunswick Ltd. is building the $90-million complex, now under construction just south of Mountain Road next to the Amsterdam Hotel in the Magnetic Hill area near Highway 2.

Hancock said all the key managers are now in position and they are starting to focus on setting up policy procedures, a responsible gaming strategy and hiring mid-level supervisors and then training front-line staff.

He joked that the whole process will be completed "the day we open."

"We're still trying to finalize the number (of total employees), but we're still targeting somewhere around the 400 mark -- 380 to 400," he said. "We're setting that all up and we're working on dealer training and, again, once we get all the managers together, we start going by department about when does everyone need to be trained."

Hancock originally hails from Ontario and has been in the casino business since 1994. He has worked for the Atlantic Lottery Corporation in Prince Edward Island, as well as in casinos in Calgary.

"What I've learned personally, not being from Moncton, is that Moncton is a very exciting and alive town," he says. "There's a lot going on, so the casino is just going to help build that excitement, it's going to continue to build that.

"Of course, it's going to create a lot of jobs. There will be a lot of economic spin-off, not only to a lot of the suppliers we're dealing with but also people spending money in the town.

"It's going to be something totally exciting for the East Coast. I think it's just going to add another dynamic to an already exciting city."

Hancock's hope is that the casino helps reinforce Moncton as a stop not to be missed when conventions or musical artists are touring across the country.

"They always seem to go to Halifax or Saint John and then skip over to Montreal or Toronto," he said. "I think this becomes just another stop and another added value and this is what we've heard from some of the customers coming up and wanting to book some time in the conference centre. It's like a breath of fresh air."

While there is still sawdust on the ground and construction and design left to be completed, Hancock said there's no shortage of anxiousness.

"It's the pressure of trying to get everything done and get it open and the excitement everyone has building a team and creating that energy. You know, basically helping to put Moncton on the map. That's what's exciting to be able to do a great job that way and, basically, be able to create an environment and entertainment centre. Entertaining, that's what it's all about."

While the casino itself is scheduled to open in May, the Palladium, conference centre and hotel will open in mid-June.
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Here's a picture of the Chateau a Pape apres le feu.



Here's hoping they will build again on the same site and in an architectural style which complements the adjacent Treitz Haus.
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Published Saturday January 30th, 2010


Assumption Life to seek new tenants once courts move to justice centre
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By Craig Babstock
Times & Transcript Staff

The Moncton justice centre is a much-anticipated piece of infrastructure scheduled to open in the city's downtown this fall.

ENLARGE PHOTO


VIKTOR PIVOVAROV/TIMES & TRANSCR
Work continues on the justice centre on Assomption Boulevard this week.
While the courthouse will be a new landmark for the city, it also represents major changes on the horizon for an existing landmark in downtown Moncton.
I'm really happy you guys are getting a new courthouse - it looks like a great building - but this photo says it all about why I just can't get excited about your "urban core". There is absolutely nothing near this building except for massive surface parking lots! What kind of atmosphere does that make for visitors and residents to just have a sea of cars rather than vibrant streetscapes? I really do hope some of those concepts posted elsewhere in this thread of a denser, more walkable neighbourhood become a reality for Moncton some day, because outside of Main St., I'm afraid there just isn't much of a downtown.

This isn't meant to spark anti-Moncton thought at all, I honestly do hope the city can move forward away from its endless cycle of sprawl.
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I'm really happy you guys are getting a new courthouse - it looks like a great building - but this photo says it all about why I just can't get excited about your "urban core". There is absolutely nothing near this building except for massive surface parking lots! What kind of atmosphere does that make for visitors and residents to just have a sea of cars rather than vibrant streetscapes? I really do hope some of those concepts posted elsewhere in this thread of a denser, more walkable neighbourhood become a reality for Moncton some day, because outside of Main St., I'm afraid there just isn't much of a downtown.

This isn't meant to spark anti-Moncton thought at all, I honestly do hope the city can move forward away from its endless cycle of sprawl.
No arguments from me kwajo, although this particular photographic perspective makes things look worse than they really are........

Main Street is nice but the downtown really has to grow towards the riverfront. The riverfront was all formerly industrial land with lots of warehouses from the time when you could actually sail a ship up the Petitcodiac. These buildings have since been torn down and hence all the current surface parking...........

Assumption Blvd. has opened this land for development. The Riverfront Park has preserved the land between Assumption and the river. The challenge will be to develop the land between Assumption and Main.

A lot of valuable time was lost with the Verdiroc situation. The new courthouse will hopefully spur future development along the northside of Assumption. I am assuming the new arena/events centre will go to Highfield Square. I can foresee a new police station, parking garage and some commercial development being built adjacent to the courthouse.

Let's hope things will look a lot different in 10 years time.
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Yeah, Kwajo. You won't find any argument here. Moncton comes in a paltry third when comparing downtowns in New Brunswick. What Fredericton lacks in height, they make up for in depth and density. Saint John goes without saying.

Chalk it up to cheap land, abysmal planning, city councils who can't say no-no matter how ridiculous a project might be, and a citizenry with no interest in big-city realities like mass transit and parking structures.

Moncton is getting better though. Slowly but surely. There has been a ton of infill apartment building throughout the city and especially the core. Granted, they've pretty well maxed out at 5 floors lately, but that's a significant improvement over the single-family homes that used to be there. Also worth noting is that parking lots are actually land being used, just not to maximum potential. The courthouse site was the largest empty lot left in the core. As demand for downtown real-estate grows, those poorly-utilized lots will be replaced by buildings. Sooner or later, demand will necessitate building parking structures, and further density.
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