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Old Posted Feb 24, 2012, 7:03 PM
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So does this:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bus...140272983.html

Manitoba actually grew quite a bit faster than the census says, we know that from the estimates, after all.
Sounds good, but it seems that by Oct. they ussually downgrade the growth by .75-1 % each year they predict healthy growth. Hope fully they won't this year!
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2012, 9:41 PM
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That only happened last year, and only because of the giant flood.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2012, 10:39 PM
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So does this:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bus...140272983.html

Manitoba actually grew quite a bit faster than the census says, we know that from the estimates, after all.
Not really; that happens frequently, only to be re-forecasted with dismal results.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2012, 11:47 PM
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Not really; that happens frequently, only to be re-forecasted with dismal results.
Maybe in your selective memory. Up until the 2008 recession, Manitoba's economy was among the top 3 for several years in a row. Manitoba has had several years of above average growth, with the last couple years being not quite as good, last year because of factors beyond anyone's control.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2012, 1:17 AM
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With low wages, whatever you read on paper is superceded by the number of people leaving. We are not doing enough to both attract and retain highly skilled people. The provincial government needs to create a better environment for business and investment, not maintaining a welfare state. I am waiting for Ottawa to reduce transfer payments, lol; then we will be scrambling. The biggest potential for Winnipeg is Centreport, but in order for this to really take off, and create the jobs in earnest, the airport needs the rail link, and I see no evidence of anyone working hard to get this done, just talk, which is what happens in excess here.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2012, 1:37 AM
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With low wages, whatever you read on paper is superceded by the number of people leaving. We are not doing enough to both attract and retain highly skilled people. The provincial government needs to create a better environment for business and investment, not maintaining a welfare state. I am waiting for Ottawa to reduce transfer payments, lol; then we will be scrambling. The biggest potential for Winnipeg is Centreport, but in order for this to really take off, and create the jobs in earnest, the airport needs the rail link, and I see no evidence of anyone working hard to get this done, just talk, which is what happens in excess here.
Katz and Selinger should have a talking contest!
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2012, 4:55 AM
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I believe Katz had passion when he ran for the first time, but I think that has ebbed, and it is time for a new premier and mayor.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2012, 5:07 AM
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With low wages, whatever you read on paper is superceded by the number of people leaving.
Which is smaller than the number of people coming. The situation is far better than it has been in decades, and yet you make it out as if things are getting worse.

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We are not doing enough to both attract and retain highly skilled people. The provincial government needs to create a better environment for business and investment, not maintaining a welfare state.
And they're doing that. They're lowering taxes where they can, and they're creating investment credits. Manitoba has lowered corporate taxes to 12%, and has a standing commitment to lower that to 11% when the deficit is gone. That said, New Brunswick has a corporate tax rate of 10%, and they aren't doing any better than us...they're doing worse in fact.

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I am waiting for Ottawa to reduce transfer payments, lol; then we will be scrambling.
Actually, because Manitoba's economy has been growing at faster than the average, we no longer qualify for as much as we used to, yet we'll be fine. There is also no evidence that Ottawa is going to lower any of the payments they make though, sorry.

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The biggest potential for Winnipeg is Centreport, but in order for this to really take off, and create the jobs in earnest, the airport needs the rail link, and I see no evidence of anyone working hard to get this done, just talk, which is what happens in excess here.
Centreport is progressing well now. You can't build much in the winter, and there is only so much that the Winnipeg construction market can absorb at one time.

Overall, this province isn't doing bad at all. It's the first time we can say that in a long time.
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Comparing us to New Brunswick, now there is a vanguard, lol. We used to find solace in Saskatchewan's woes, but now their fortunes have catapulted them into have status. Thankfully there is New Brunswick to make us feel better huh?

The little tax relief is a proverbial band aid on a hemorrage, ha ha ha.

We don't qualify for more in equalization? Hardly.

http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp

You have no idea when Ottawa will cut transfer payments, and Sellinger has no plan to deal with this when it happens, and it will.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2012, 4:35 AM
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There is no foreseeable situation where the CHT, CST, or Equalization will be cut.

Also, if you notice, our per capita allocation of dollars is falling.

25% of our budget comes from transfers, and that's quite a bit less than before.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2012, 8:44 PM
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I want to see us becoming more agressive in attracting more investment and companies here. I know we can do better.

Harper's government is suggesting there is no guarantee transfer payments will not be reduced.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2012, 12:25 AM
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The Harper government never suggested such a thing.
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The Harper government never suggested such a thing.
The Harper government is like pulling the plug on the Canadian tub...
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2012, 3:33 PM
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The Harper government never suggested such a thing.
To pay for old age benefits, and the deficit, do not rule it out.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 12:38 AM
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The Harper government never suggested such a thing.
They didn't suggest taxing income trusts either, but they did that. Governments should be prepared for all scenarios. If Thunder Bay can have three backup options for funding a mutliplex, surely Manitoba can have at least a basic idea of how it will cope if transfers get reduced?
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 1:06 AM
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To pay for old age benefits, and the deficit, do not rule it out.
The deficit is already well on track to elimination at the federal level. The old age security issue is also being dealt with. Your dream of Manitoba having less money for healthcare, education, and infrastructure probably isn't going to come to fruition.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Says you. We will see Nancy.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 1:21 PM
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No, not says me. The information is quite easy to find.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 10:56 PM
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We'll see.
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Old Posted Feb 29, 2012, 12:38 AM
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Of course we'll see. You're making a prediction with no basis for it.
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