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Old Posted Nov 8, 2018, 3:32 PM
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for the rate you are paying there i would hope they would at least assemble the IKEA furniture for me!
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2018, 4:23 PM
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You're comparing apples to oranges - No.9 Walton and 4 E Elm are condo buildings, the pics shown of OBP are rentals. OBP is allowing buyers to bring their own designers to finish the interiors, so whatever finishes end up in the units are on the buyer, not RAMSA.
Fair enough. For rentals those are decent, but I wouldn't exactly call that amazing either.
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and you don't even wanna know how much they'll spend on their couches.
Occasionally they allow an alley rat from the third class in on their dinner parties, just to be nice
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2018, 6:01 PM
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Projects like these (and the clients that inhabit buildings like this) are the reason why I haven't worked on residential projects in nearly 15 years
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2018, 7:05 PM
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Here's a brand new luxury rental in Chicago:





Not even close to the finishes on OBP. And that institutional white! Oh noooo.

But that metal cat is luxury. Right?
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2018, 7:22 PM
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Here's a brand new luxury rental in Chicago:



Not even close to the finishes on OBP. And that institutional white! Oh noooo.

But that metal cat is luxury. Right?
Aside from the floors, the rest of that looks terrible. And I'm a big fan of white kitchens. This just looks so depressing the way it was done.
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2018, 8:29 PM
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What tower is that from, vandelay?
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2018, 8:53 AM
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I still haven’t been able to find a listing for any of the top three units. Anyone have an idea why these are not open listings yet?
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I still haven’t been able to find a listing for any of the top three units. Anyone have an idea why these are not open listings yet?
It's a common strategy to scatter the listings, and save the priciest for last. Driving up the price of the less pricey units will help you get more for the penthouses. If you sell the penthouses first, you've already capped how much the most expensive units in the building will fetch.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2018, 2:59 PM
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mmmm.... vinyl flooring that looks like wood.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2018, 6:53 PM
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Anyone watch Robert AM Stern on Chicago Tonight last night? Phil Ponce did a good job. I was not that impressed with Stern. He could at least sit up straight if he's going on TV.
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Anyone watch Robert AM Stern on Chicago Tonight last night? Phil Ponce did a good job. I was not that impressed with Stern. He could at least sit up straight if he's going on TV.
Also watched it last night, and I completely agree. I thought Stern was pretty arrogant. It did't seem to me like he really cared about the city he was building in. He also completely dissed Chicago's modernist buildings, which I thought was a bit insulting. Whole interview was very informative though.
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He also completely dissed Chicago's modernist buildings, which I thought was a bit insulting.
Sounds about right.
https://therealdeal.com/chicago/2018...that-equation/
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2018, 11:56 PM
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Also watched it last night, and I completely agree. I thought Stern was pretty arrogant. It did't seem to me like he really cared about the city he was building in. He also completely dissed Chicago's modernist buildings, which I thought was a bit insulting. Whole interview was very informative though.
Strange, his building here is mediocre and he's ripping on others?
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NYC is to Art Deco what Chicago is to Modernism. Each city is the style's respective heavy weight in the country/world? I wouldn't take it personally. He's from NYC. I'm sure he grew up thinking, "THIS is how buildings are supposed to look."

Personally, I wouldn't mind another one of his towers, but in actual limestone and with a copper roof.

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Strange, his building here is mediocre and he's ripping on others?
I think OBP is actually quite a sophisticated design (no doubt designed by talented employees). Having said that, he must be suffering from Alzie's based upon that interview. That's not the former dean of the Yale architecture school talking, but some sort of bitter, misogynist (only Mrs.'s hang curtains?) proposing a totally baseless and indefensible thesis...
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NYC is to Art Deco what Chicago is to Modernism. Each is city is the style's respective heavy weight in the country/world? I wouldn't take it personally. He's from NYC. I'm sure he grew thinking, "THIS is how buildings are supposed to look."

Personally, I wouldn't mind another one of his towers, but in actual limestone and with a copper roof.
Or maybe it's just his personal preference. Have you ever talked to architect junkies who love modernism and when you tell them you're not a fan, they get downright mean and condescending? He probably bumps heads constantly with arrogant modernist lovers who dislike traditionalist architecture themselves, so he has likewise adopted a hard hard for the style he prefers.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2018, 3:55 PM
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Yeah well modernism is the predominant style of our era for a reason: the materials and building techniques dictate it. Trying to cover up the fundamental truth of our era of human civilization should be chastized and frowned upon...
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2018, 3:59 PM
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I've defended this building and Stern but if he's gonna come here and trash 860-880 LSD he can GTFO of Chicago.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2018, 4:21 PM
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I've defended this building and Stern but if he's gonna come here and trash 860-880 LSD he can GTFO of Chicago.
Where the lie ?
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