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Old Posted Feb 2, 2018, 10:55 PM
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Why not? I'd hope to avoid mega developments. But why shouldn't the Damen Green equal the Addison Red?
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It’s not NIMBYism when I don’t live in the West Loop.

I’m not against more development in the West Loop, and I certainly want more people walking around and even more traffic, but I just think development needs to occur within the midrise paradigm. Make West Loop look like inner Washington DC, but with better architecture. A height limit (be it official or unofficial) encourages more efficient use of space, minimal parking, and smaller more efficient residential layouts, in addition to the other benefits I listed before.
Height limits suck. I live in DC. I’m so tired of uniform height block after block after block. The land is so valuable that every developer builds up to the height allowed along that street. With the land becoming increasingly valuable in the West Loop, I suspect any attempt to cap it at a particular height will lead to too much height uniformity there as well.
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Height limits suck. I live in DC. I’m so tired of uniform height block after block after block. The land is so valuable that every developer builds up to the height allowed along that street. With the land becoming increasingly valuable in the West Loop, I suspect any attempt to cap it at a particular height will lead to too much height uniformity there as well.
The restricted build heights pressures developers to be unique with facades/cladding, courtyards, etc. For example one of my favorite developments in DC is Square 37, it's uniform stepped facade is something that I feel you wouldn't see anywhere else.

While the chances of this building being dropped in height to 25/30 floors is likely it has a unique facade that sets it apart from the other high rises west of Kennedy.
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Why not? I'd hope to avoid mega developments. But why shouldn't the Damen Green equal the Addison Red?
I would love for that neighborhood to turn into it's own district but theres no way the neigbors would ever let that happen.
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Why not? I'd hope to avoid mega developments. But why shouldn't the Damen Green equal the Addison Red?
No I totally agree. The West Side could definitely use a nightlife node, as it currently lacks one, really.

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I would love for that neighborhood to turn into it's own district but theres no way the neigbors would ever let that happen.
What neighbors? Start with the lots immediately adjacent to the UC. Those lots are surrounded by other lots. To the south there is Malcom X College and some project housing. There is derelict housing to the west and some retail to the east. Maybe the condo/apartments north of Warren/Washington might put up a fight, but there really isn't that many of them yet to really make the alderman give too much notice to them. And honestly, if it brings retail to the neighborhood, I could see a lot of those neighbors be in support of any development to their south.
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We rarely do underground parking like DC does.
And an unofficial height limit sure isn't going to incentivize developers to foot the the bill for that, either.
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Height limits suck. I live in DC. I’m so tired of uniform height block after block after block. The land is so valuable that every developer builds up to the height allowed along that street. With the land becoming increasingly valuable in the West Loop, I suspect any attempt to cap it at a particular height will lead to too much height uniformity there as well.
I disagree. Although I love high rises, I really liked DC’s built environment during the years I lived there. What a neat city
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I disagree. Although I love high rises, I really liked DC’s built environment during the years I lived there. What a neat city
I agree. And lot's of green space too (not just the mall)
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I would love for that neighborhood to turn into it's own district but theres no way the neigbors would ever let that happen.
I'm utterly confused, who are these "neighbors" you speak of? The sea of surface lots? the city college?
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Why not? I'd hope to avoid mega developments. But why shouldn't the Damen Green equal the Addison Red?
Damen and Lake ?

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I'm utterly confused, who are these "neighbors" you speak of? The sea of surface lots? the city college?
There is already a fair amount of high density housing there
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Height limits suck. I live in DC. I’m so tired of uniform height block after block after block. The land is so valuable that every developer builds up to the height allowed along that street. With the land becoming increasingly valuable in the West Loop, I suspect any attempt to cap it at a particular height will lead to too much height uniformity there as well.
Do you feel the same way about Paris or Berlin? Uniformity of height isn’t a bad thing if buildings share a tasteful architectural language.

There’s no shortage of land in the West Loop to develop, that’s why we’re seeing so many proposals. It’ll be a long time before development pressures “force” developers to build tall. Related is just trying to grab valuable skyline views so they can charge higher-than-market rents.
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And why not? That's the bonus of having the Kennedy in the front yard. To be above it and have the view. The heights will drop off sharply to the west. But there should be a tower or two at each cta station.
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Community Meeting Notice for Proposed Development located at 900 West Randolph/170 North Peoria.

TUESDAY, MARCH 27, 2018 6:00 PM @ Haymarket Pub & Brewery
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Building height reduced from 51 to 43 stories (570 ft to 495 ft)

• Proposal includes funding for new public space along Randolph Street, consistent with the concepts proposed in the West Loop Design Guidelines (see image from the Guidelines)



FYI, 495' is the same height as 727 W. Madison.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2018, 7:22 PM
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Not surprised, 495 ft is still a really good compromise this far west.
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Community Meeting Notice for Proposed Development located at 900 West Randolph/170 North Peoria.

TUESDAY, MARCH 27, 2018 6:00 PM @ Haymarket Pub & Brewery
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2018, 11:32 PM
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I'm surprised it was nerfed by only 75 feet.

That said, would've been nice if this was over 500 feet, lol.

Hopefully the community meeting doesn't cause the developers to shorten the height of this building further.
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2018, 2:38 AM
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For anyone interested. There are pictures up on the neighbors of West loop Facebook page. Here

The most interesting part is it looks like they want to put Randolph on a road diet to increase room for pedestrians
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2018, 2:53 AM
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• The building height would be reduced by 15% to 43 stories (495 ft), with the floor plate increased to maintain the square footage.

Ugh, I thought this city learned. Tall and skinny > short and fat. It allows for more sunlight and more attractive buildings. I mean, if we are keeping the square footage the exact same (and thus, the number of units and number of new residents to the neighborhood with the same amount of increased traffic and whatever else these dregs of society complain about), what exactly is the point of shortening the building? How does this benefit the local neighborhood NIMBYs/Alderbeast exactly?
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