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[acottawa]

Although my favourite one is it lists Ambico Ltd near Cyriville station (which seems to be in the specialty door business) as a place to do "errands".

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by acottawa

Although my favourite one is it lists Ambico Ltd near Cyriville station (which seems to be in the specialty door business) as a place to do "errands".

What would it be if it was a regular door business, instead of a specialty one?

[McC]

Garland Grocery is a defunct convenience store, and nothing seems to be in a hurry to replace it.

Plugging "1 Holland Ave" into walkscore.com gives an 89, so I guess that Tunney's missed being coded "Green" by half a point or less.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

They're using WalkScore methodology (https://www.walkscore.com/). This focuses on the walking distances to amenities and retail like grocery stores, banks, cafes, etc. The scoring is based on actual walking distances on foot, not as-crow-flies, so it gets that down pat.. but the methodology more or less completely ignores the pleasantness of the walk. So a 200m walk down a gravel shoulder and over a crosswalk where you have to push a button and wait 3 minutes counts the same as a 200m walk down a sidewalk sidewalk.

Yes, there are definitely issues with the WalkScore methodology. For example Tremblay received the lowest score of any station, but that is likely because the value of being close to the VIA Rail station is not considered. Other the trains themselves, the VIA station has little in the way of amenities in it or nearby.

The other thing is if they are only considering commercial amenities, it won't consider TOD to be of any value.

Hence why Bayview would score higher than uOttawa. Bayview is within a short walk of all the stuff on the West Wellington strip, even though the area is somewhat pedestrian-hostile; while uOttawa, despite having surroundings that are easy to walk around, doesn't actually have much in the way of amenities around it (Elgin and Rideau are a bit of a trek).

Something doesn't add up with that. Wellington isn't all that close to Bayview station in terms of walking distance. As for uOttawa, they must be ignoring all of the amenities on campus (including classrooms).

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by roger1818

As for uOttawa, they must be ignoring all of the amenities on campus (including classrooms).

Those classrooms must not have any martial arts in them.

[McC]

Originally Posted by roger1818

Something doesn't add up with that. Wellington isn't all that close to Bayview station in terms of walking distance. As for uOttawa, they must be ignoring all of the amenities on campus (including classrooms).

Bayview and Tunney's are the same distance from WestWelli (~500m); although Holland Cross and Holland Ave offer way more options along the way than Bayview Rd or the little patchwork of residential streets in the NE corner of the Burg do. I was surprised when I plugged it into google maps that uOttawa is appreciably further than that from Elgin St (~750m); it's such a pleasant walk, it goes by fast.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

What would it be if it was a regular door business, instead of a specialty one?

a door store

[McC]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Those classrooms must not have any martial arts in them.

TIL that walkscore's algorithms are too blunt to differentiate in any way between proximity to, say, a K-6 public school, and the street address of a person who offers online training for would-be real estate agents, when scoring for "walking to school." So caveat emptor, season heavily, and read the fine print.

[Kitchissippi]

Originally Posted by Lakeofthewood

If they are going to be building something over / under VIA rail right of way, wouldn't VIA have final say on whether or not they can actually construct it?

The pedestrian tunnel through the VIA station is shown as part of the Transit Oriented Development study for Tremblay Station, which gives some hope that it will happen: http://ottawa.ca/en/transit-oriented...ment-tod-plans

They really shouldn't be labelling these documents "plans" when they are merely theoretical studies.

The existing tunnel is far too narrow for public use, and would cause chaos with VIA's cueing of passengers, compromise platform access and general station security. It doesn't make sense to have access to the LRT through the VIA station which has its own opening hours anyway, I imagine a more direct bridge or tunnel to the LRT would be built to the west of the station eventually.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

I imagine a more direct bridge or tunnel to the LRT would be built to the west of the station eventually.

The problem is the LRT station is too far west to be of much use to anyone on the opposite side of the tracks.

[1overcosc]

^ Yeah. If we really wanted to serve the trainyards we'd have to add a station at Belfast. Thing is that station would be REALLY heavily unused.. although it would arguably have more intensification potential than either Tremblay or St. Laurent would have.

[McC]

Originally Posted by McC

Plugging "1 Holland Ave" into walkscore.com gives an 89, so I guess that Tunney's missed being coded "Green" by half a point or less.

well this is weird, Bayview Station actually only gets a walkscore of 80: https://www.walkscore.com/score/bayv...tion-ottawa-on
9 Nicholas, which is pretty close to uOttawa station scores an 83. https://www.walkscore.com/score/bayv...tion-ottawa-on

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by McC

well this is weird, Bayview Station actually only gets a walkscore of 80: https://www.walkscore.com/score/bayv...tion-ottawa-on
9 Nicholas, which is pretty close to uOttawa station scores an 83. https://www.walkscore.com/score/bayv...tion-ottawa-on

Your gave the same link twice. I think you mean https://www.walkscore.com/score/9-ni...tawa-on-canada for the second one.

[Kitchissippi]

It would have been really cool if they had just combined the LRT and train stations by giving the first two tracks for the LRT with a separate parallel tunnel to the other side, or a much wider tunnel that contained platform gates. It would have put that big building to better use and make the shops within more viable.

[McC]

Originally Posted by roger1818

Your gave the same link twice. I think you mean https://www.walkscore.com/score/9-ni...tawa-on-canada for the second one.

oops, thanks.

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

It would have been really cool if they had just combined the LRT and train stations by giving the first two tracks for the LRT with a separate parallel tunnel to the other side, or a much wider tunnel that contained platform gates. It would have put that big building to better use and make the shops within more viable.

by putting the track from St Laurent underneath Belfast Rd?

[SkeggsEggs]

Haven't been to Bayview in awhile, but does the pedestrian underpass for the LRT usually not have lights on? Because it didn't tonight, and that doesn't seem too safe!

[Catenary]

Originally Posted by SkeggsEggs

Haven't been to Bayview in awhile, but does the pedestrian underpass for the LRT usually not have lights on? Because it didn't tonight, and that doesn't seem too safe!

I noticed this last night as well, I don't remember it being so dark in the past.

[rocketphish]

City reaches agreement for cell service in the LRT tunnel

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: September 8, 2017 | Last Updated: September 8, 2017 5:17 PM EDT

Your cell phone conversation won’t go interrupted while descending into an LRT station to catch a train when the electric rail line opens in 2018.

That is, as long as your cell plan is with one of the big carriers.

OC Transpo confirmed Friday that the city has signed an agreement to provide cell coverage in the 2.5-kilometre tunnel through downtown.

Pat Scrimgeour, the head of transit customer services and planning, said in an email that customers who pay for cell service through major cellular providers will be able to use their cell phones in the tunnel.

“The city has reached an agreement with Telus,” Scrimgeour said. “We understand that Telus has interoperability agreements with Rogers and Bell. Other cellular providers wishing to serve their customers as they travel in the downtown tunnel can make arrangements with Telus.”

(On the Toronto subway system, there’s only one cell provider giving its customers access to cell service in stations).

About two years ago, the City of Ottawa indicated it was in discussions with wireless providers to provide service in the tunnel. Coun. Stephen Blais told CBC Ottawa at the time that Transpo set aside $1 million to maintain wireless services underground.

So, as long as you’re hooked into one of those major cell providers, looks like you’ll be able to chat or text in the Confederation Line LRT tunnel.

jwilling@postmedia.com
twitter.com/JonathanWilling

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...the-lrt-tunnel

[kevinbottawa]

Eric Darwin has an article on the city's proposed changes to Booth Street around Pimisi Station. He also has some drawings of what the proposed changes would look like.

http://www.westsideaction.com/fixing...reeway-fiasco/

Looking South (Eric Darwin has this image in a bigger size on his site)



Looking North



I like how the bike lane slips behind the bus shelter and planter in the top rendering.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by roger1818

Do you really think the City of Ottawa can do anything without it costing money?

My point is any of the six designs above would have been fine. Sure we all have our favourites, but we don't need to have a poll for every little decision. There are a lot of things we can complain about, but this one seems rather petty.

An online poll on the City or Confederation Line website wouldn't have cost much, if anything. That's kind of my point; trivial decisions that have little effect on the cost, operation and general day to day use of the system, such as the train's paint job or art (as in voting for the favourite submissions, as we were able to do for the Communism Memorial or the Memorial to Lord Stanley's Gift) is a great way to have the taxpayers feel like they had a part in the project and give them a sens of pride. The City's current approach is to give us some updates and force decisions on us.

Let's just agree to disagree.

Originally Posted by White Pine

Winning design:



New LRV




They didn't go against the result, they just changed it. Rather like Claridge Homes.

Ya, that's pretty bad.

Originally Posted by kevinbottawa

Eric Darwin has an article on the city's proposed changes to Booth Street around Pimisi Station. He also has some drawings of what the proposed changes would look like.

http://www.westsideaction.com/fixing...reeway-fiasco/

I'm baffled as to why they didn't put this much thought into it before building the damn bridge.