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Old Posted Jul 14, 2017, 10:30 AM
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I wouldn`t expect the Hurricanes to be going to Quebec.

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According to Bloomberg's Scott Soshnick, former Texas Rangers CEO Chuck Greenberg is close to buying the NHL's Carolina Hurricanes for roughly $500 million.
Soshnick reports the the deal would keep the Hurricanes in Carolina under the new ownership. He points out the price tag will be close to the fee Bill Foley paid for a Vegas expansion team and close to double Forbes' $230 million estimate of the Hurricanes' value.
I don't think an American owner with no ties to Quebec would look to move the team there. He also seems to have grossly overpaid for this team.
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I don't think an American owner with no ties to Quebec would look to move the team there. He also seems to have grossly overpaid for this team.
You can bet he didn't pay anything close to 500 mill for the team. They did some accounting magic to make it seem that way.
The team is valued at half that price (which is probably still over-valued) in that poor hockey market - yet it sold for almost the exact same amount as a new expansion team that's starting out this year. What a coincidence!

This is just shenanigans to try and keep franchise values inflated while at the same time not trying to piss off the new Vegas owner for paying 500 mill for an expansion team when an already established franchise (which has won a Cup) could've been purchased for half the price.

The NHL isn't fooling anyone. It really is a bush-league.
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2017, 12:48 PM
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You can bet he didn't pay anything close to 500 mill for the team. They did some accounting magic to make it seem that way.
The team is valued at half that price (which is probably still over-valued) in that poor hockey market - yet it sold for almost the exact same amount as a new expansion team that's starting out this year. What a coincidence!

This is just shenanigans to try and keep franchise values inflated while at the same time not trying to piss off the new Vegas owner for paying 500 mill for an expansion team when an already established franchise (which has won a Cup) could've been purchased for half the price.

The NHL isn't fooling anyone. It really is a bush-league.
Yeah. Any sales have to be approved by the NHL BoG, right? So they can tell this Texas guy to STFU about the real sale amount, and the 500M stays out there as the "official" price, and no one will ever really know.
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Centre videotron will be old by the time poor Quebec gets a team.
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Centre videotron will be old by the time poor Quebec gets a team.
Perhaps they should have waited to land an NHL franchise before building an NHL-scale arena.
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Perhaps they should have waited to land an NHL franchise before building an NHL-scale arena.
If they can't get a team with a brand new arena there's no way in hell they'd get one to play in the colisee.
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2017, 6:23 PM
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If they can't get a team with a brand new arena there's no way in hell they'd get one to play in the colisee.
Lots of places have brand new arenas - the NHL isn't scrambling to cover areas they already have a large market-share of.

Quebec needs the NHL more than the NHL needs Quebec, and the NHL will continue using Quebec's desperation for a team as leverage on new markets or sales of franchises (Carolina).
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Word is the Carolina Hurricanes are on the verge of being sold for around
$500 million. Looks like that will be the starting price for an expansion fee.
That is the expansion fee that Foley paid for Vegas and what Quebec was to pay during the expansion bidding. The sliding Canadian dollar made it $650 million Canadian and stalled the Quebec City bid (officially) as that was deemed too much. Easier for Foley in Vegas to pay that amount of money as its private than a publicly traded company to justify the figure on their balance sheet.

I should mention it was reported that Vegas is doing really well on the ticket revenue front. Apparently they are either 5 or 6 in the NHL now (either just ahead or just behind Montreal) and the top 4 being Toronto, New York Rangers, Chicago and Edmonton.
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Lots of places have brand new arenas - the NHL isn't scrambling to cover areas they already have a large market-share of.

Quebec needs the NHL more than the NHL needs Quebec, and the NHL will continue using Quebec's desperation for a team as leverage on new markets or sales of franchises (Carolina).
Then you also have to consider that with conference configuration, they want a Western Conference team playing in the central division as the other 3 divisions are now 8 teams but the Central is 7. With news that the Rockets and the Toyota Center are for sale, I bet the NHL is hoping someone in Houston wants a team and give them an expansion franchise. Seattle will then get Arizona when they finally get their arena issue sorted out thus putting Arizona out of their misery. That way they solve the conference imbalance and end the Arizona prolonged deathbed watch.
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The Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook has already released its odds for which team will win the 2018 Stanley Cup, with the defending champion Penguins the biggest favorites at 8-1 and the aforementioned Golden Knights the biggest longshots at 200-1. The Predators, the defending Western Conference champions, are tied for the sixth-best odds at 14-1.

2018 Stanley Cup Odds
TEAM OPENING ODDS



Pittsburgh Penguins 8-1
Tampa Bay Lightning 10-1
Washington Capitals 10-1
Edmonton Oilers 10-1
Chicago Blackhawks 12-1
Montreal Canadiens 14-1
Toronto Maple Leafs 14-1
New York Rangers 14-1
Minnesota Wild 14-1
Nashville Predators 14-1
Dallas Stars 14-1
Anaheim Ducks 14-1
Columbus Blue Jackets 20-1
San Jose Sharks 20-1
Los Angeles Kings 20-1
Ottawa Senators 30-1
Boston Bruins 30-1
St. Louis Blues 30-1
Calgary Flames 30-1
Florida Panthers 40-1
New York Islanders 40-1
Philadelphia Flyers 40-1
Winnipeg Jets 40-1
Buffalo Sabres 60-1
Carolina Hurricanes 60-1
Detroit Red Wings 100-1
New Jersey Devils 100-1
Colorado Avalanche 100-1
Arizona Coyotes 100-1
Vancouver Canucks 100-1
Vegas Golden Knights 200-1
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It has almost become a tradition to underestimate the Sens.

The Hype of the Leafs has become unbelievable.
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