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Old Posted Jun 29, 2017, 5:12 PM
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Less than 80,000 commuters use the AMT's 6 train lines every morning. You can't compare that to GO.

I'm for the gradual phasing out of ALL commuter train lines eventually - replaced by buses or REM.
It's actually 83,100 now if you look at the Rapport annuel 2016 from the AMT.

There has to be the phasing out of a commuter rail line ONLY if it is transformed into REM (by some divine miracle, since the only trackage the AMT owned was Deux-Montagnes). Shutting down a commuter rail line with a burgeoning ridership is unacceptable if it is replaced by bus service. It would be back to square one.

Just look at how much the Saint-Jerome line ridership has grown since the added departures. It's nearly as busy as the VH line now... Let's not give up on our commuter rail just because one line will be converted into rapid transit and another will see a small decrease in ridership due to the arrival of the REM in the West Island. It's still top 10 in the continent for ridership.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2017, 6:25 PM
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Is the plan to build the Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue REM station where the current AMT station is? If so, they should consider extending the line through Ile Perrot to at least Dorion. Having a terminus at a village town centre doesn't seem like a good idea - especially if the terminus is supposed to serve feeder buses and a park-and-ride. Also, every time I've driven it, the A-20 through Ile Perrot was a major choke point. It might cost quite a bit of money to upgrade the two rail bridges, but it would really enhance commuting for people coming from the west.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2017, 6:29 PM
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My concern is that REM is not going beyond the West Island and would there not be potential congestion issues at the couple of road crossing onto the island? So, why would we want to cancel commuter service that has its own right of way onto the island? By all means, get rid of it once REM has its own crossing to Vaudreuil, but to force people onto buses that may be held up in regular traffic? How is this beneficial to commuters and how does it have a positive affect on ridership? As others have pointed out, people have very limited tolerance towards additional transfers.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2017, 6:38 PM
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Is the plan to build the Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue REM station where the current AMT station is? If so, they should consider extending the line through Ile Perrot to at least Dorion. Having a terminus at a village town centre doesn't seem like a good idea - especially if the terminus is supposed to serve feeder buses and a park-and-ride. Also, every time I've driven it, the A-20 through Ile Perrot was a major choke point. It might cost quite a bit of money to upgrade the two rail bridges, but it would really enhance commuting for people coming from the west.
No, the REM station is about 3,7 km from the VH station. It's located along the A-40 (near a residential area and a future low density development) while the commuter rail station is in the town center.

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My concern is that REM is not going beyond the West Island and would there not be potential congestion issues at the couple of road crossing onto the island? So, why would we want to cancel commuter service that has its own right of way onto the island? By all means, get rid of it once REM has its own crossing to Vaudreuil, but to force people onto buses that may be held up in regular traffic? How is this beneficial to commuters and how does it have a positive affect on ridership? As others have pointed out, people have very limited tolerance towards additional transfers.
Nobody is talking about shutting down the VH line, except opposants to the project. In reality, ridership will drop but not significatively IMO since the Vaudreuil-Hudson user pool is very well established along the A-20. Why would you drive to the REM station instead of walking to your nearby commuter rail station if Downtown is your destination?

The users that will transfer from VH to the REM are mostly the ones going to McGill or Université de Montréal (right now, VH users have to get off at Vendome to take the Metro and transfer to get to either of the two universities), and that's quite alright as their travel times will be significantly reduced (for UdeM people from Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue, I calculated it goes from an hour *excluding transfer time* to 30 minutes). The 9 to 5 downtown commuters will keep their routine.

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The drop in peak demand caused by REM sounds like a good opportunity to change the rolling stock on the VH line from bulky locomotive/coach consists that can carry huge loads during peak but are uneconomic off-peak, to fuel efficient hybrid DMUs similar to the Pearson UPX that can run economically throughout the day. At peak they could combine two married pairs consisting of 3-4 cars each for a total of 6-8 per train and run them every 20-30 minutes, and off peak run a single 3-4 car set every 30-60 min. Only every other train would venture out to Hudson.

With the smaller trains it might even be possible to have a few trips to Rigaud again.
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The Province of Alberta has today officially announced it's share of the funding for Phase 1 of the Green Line in Calgary. All three orders of government have now confirmed funding, and construction will start for the 20 km, 14 station phase 1 in 2020, to open in 2026.

This includes a lengthy tunnel through downtown, and under the river. It is completely grade separated for 3/4 of phase 1 (and 100% separated from any road that is any way important), and completes all of the complicated portions of the future 46 km, 28 station full buildout. Future stages can be added relatively cheaply as money is available - there is no need to collect and hoard billions of dollars to get anything done.

This will be Calgary's 5th "spoke" out of downtown - and also a tiny bit of the 6th.

There is potential, due to cost savings during construction, or other funding becoming available in the timeframe, that additional length and stations could open on Day 1.
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Why 3 years before construction?!
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Why 3 years before construction?!
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This is a ridiculous timeline than could be compressed to a year.
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I think you could start the tender process 2, 3 quarters earlier at best, in Q1/Q2 2018, which might let you break ground in Q4 2019.
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Confederation Line pics from the Ottawa forum;

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Catenary system at Tremblay from up close

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Awesome pics Harley!

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That looks serious.

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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 12:54 AM
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Hurdman is going to have so many transfers though... not as bad as Tunney's Pasture for the next few years though.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 5:00 PM
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First preliminary work underway for the REM. Relocation of Hydro-Quebec infrastructure on Wellington Street (purple dotted line), under which the tunnel will go.



This isn't groundbreaking yet, but it shows the project is well underway for a construction start in late 2017/early 2018.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2017, 10:32 PM
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On Sunday, July 16, the Kontinuum sound and light show by Moment Factory, one of the signature Ottawa 2017 events, launched in the future Lyon O-Train Station. Here are a few pictures;


https://twitter.com/moment_factory

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