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Old Posted Jul 14, 2017, 6:44 PM
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Agree that CWI will be a nice piece of the puzzle, but due to the nature of the land use also think it will be rather dead in the evening. Even giant BSU becomes a ghost town all summer for the points you mentioned. Hopefully the large area of the college fronting the river will be treated as more of a public amenity.

And yeah, I don't think a grocery store would work in that area without a large surface parking lot. A walmart neighborhood market would probably work as it could lure all of Garden City. The Cash and Carry on the other side of the Connector has somehow survived for decades, and is in an even more isolated location.

Options for using URD funds is pretty limited considering the run-down or completely vacant nature of the area. A parking garage is a good option since no developer wants to pay for parking, and it could spur investment. I think the transition of the area needs to start close to the river. Does the City own the old Goodman Oil property? For some reason I think they do. If so, before they sell it off for another debacle like the dentist office and suburban mountain lodge they let get built on Whitewater and Main, it'd be interesting to see what could be done to that property to prepare it to be a notable greenbelt eat and drink spot that is painfully missing so far. It's so premature though, it's hard to imagine anything working.


The Goodman Oil property is in private hands, the Yanke family if iirc.

Yeah, somehow the ball needs to get rolling. The Local Construct project might be a catalyst, but it needs something else.
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2017, 10:27 PM
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A very short clip of the Twilight Criterium on Saturday. 7-15-2017

https://youtu.be/pc8jKyb-8tk
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 5:09 AM
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Military Reserve aka The Black Forest ~ Boise Foothills
Freestone Creek and Cottonwood Creek are down in the trees.
Toll Rd Trail, a Ridge To Rivers trail is at the bottom left

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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 8:21 PM
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This is looking good. Did they give any indication of when this *might* start construction?

Thanks for the video AB and the photo Sawtooth!


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Here are some additional, more developed renderings of the Whitewater project that were displayed at the work session.

Corner of 29th and Main


Future 29th St.


Aerial from West
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 9:53 PM
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This is looking good. Did they give any indication of when this *might* start construction?
They said one year of project development, construction drawings and city review process with the intention to break ground next fall. It would then have a 18 month construction schedule. They stressed that the proposal as is, is the ideal version of the project, subject to change due to feasibility, finances, market etc.

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Old Posted Jul 18, 2017, 2:02 PM
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Large new Micron building

This isn't tall, but it is huge - almost as big as the new Simplot HQ.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2017, 6:59 PM
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8th and Fort Update

I was checking back in on the 8th and Fort st. application and noticed some renders!
Theres a couple more in the link below:

http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...07171636399740

Corner of 8th and Fort


*8th St. and retail


Fort St. and Townhomes


Alley side

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Old Posted Jul 18, 2017, 7:24 PM
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And a rendering of the new slightly urban (but not really) Downtown CVS

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Old Posted Jul 19, 2017, 4:25 PM
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And a rendering of the new slightly urban (but not really) Downtown CVS
This one is fairly amusing to put it lightly. That little strip mall where CVS is proposed is only about 8 or 9 years old. Before that it was a Chevron and the owner was one of the nimbys protesting the CUB Interchange which could have dramatically improved the whole neighborhood by better accommodating pedestrians.

Sorry for the repost but here's what could have been at the Capitol, University, Boise intersection.


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Old Posted Jul 19, 2017, 8:47 PM
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In my opinion the existing building looks better when compared to the rendering for the pharmacy. Hopefully Tree City Juice & Smoothie Cafe relocates somewhere else in the downtown area.

Pizza Hut has vacated their sit down restaurants and are now only in small take out locations. Maybe that old Hut next door will be repurposed into a new restaurant or torn down?
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2017, 1:14 AM
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This isn't tall, but it is huge - almost as big as the new Simplot HQ.
Very nice article! I work in B36 out at Micron and this has been rumored for quite some time now. Much needed as they are cramming people in every nook and cranny out there (they have 3 modular trailers with people in the parking lot if that tells you anything).
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2017, 12:33 AM
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Destruction @ 15th and Front

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Old Posted Jul 21, 2017, 1:47 PM
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Thanks for posting that 1420 West Front project.

Realtor: "Site and Building are Adaptable to Many Uses: Retail/Flex, Restaurant/Brew Pub, Nightclub or Event/Performing Arts Center"

Developer/buyer: It's a tear down. "The project repurposes an old dilapidated warehouse on the corner of 15th Street and Front Street."

Synopsis: We don't know what the actual selling price was but the asking price was $51/sqft, or about $2,230,000 per acre. Wow.

It appears the total sq footage of living space will be 17,600sf. Land cost $600k, construction cost 3,520,000 at $200/sqft estimate, totaling over $4,000,000 for 8 units. So, um, $500,000+ per unit ($232sf not including profit) to live right next to the Connector and Skate Park? Yeah, wow.

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Developer/buyer: It's a tear down. "The project repurposes an old dilapidated warehouse on the corner of 15th Street and Front Street."
Hmm, when I read "re-purpose" i thought they implied reuse... guess we have different definitions...

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They have new permit in with the city
http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...id=CUP17-00049
There is also a demolition permit.
http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...id=BLD17-02327

But also found this on their original conditional use permit... Notice how it mentions convert... not demolish...
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2017, 6:09 PM
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Hmm, when I read "re-purpose" i thought they implied reuse... guess we have different definitions...

Edit.
They have new permit in with the city
http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...id=CUP17-00049
There is also a demolition permit.
http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...id=BLD17-02327

But also found this on their original conditional use permit... Notice how it mentions convert... not demolish...
Yeah I noticed that "repurpose" and snickered because it's gone now. But notice that the CUP was from 2016. I wonder how and when they changed their minds and how those conversations with P&Z went.
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On the new application the letter of intent says that by removing all of the interior walls, they found that the exterior walls were no longer structurally sound... and therefore will "construct an exact duplicate wall" in its place.

http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...07211031173390
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2017, 11:51 PM
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^ Good. That crappy little warehouse had no redeeming qualities. That the developers had to likely find these loopholes to replace it shows how bad red tape regulations can be on redevelopment.
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I'm glad to see 8 more units go in! I wonder what the pricing will be, considering that it's adjacent to the Connector...
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I'm glad to see 8 more units go in! I wonder what the pricing will be, considering that it's adjacent to the Connector...
BoiseCynic broke it down in some previous posts (estimating 500K+ per unit), which seems more expensive than anyone would ever want to pay to live in that location, but we'll see. Hoping we don't get left with a demolition and no building.
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