Tucson Development Thread - Page 422

Patrick S · #**8421** Posted **Apr 11, 2024, 9:27 PM**

Found a few things of interest:

Rio Nuevo Board Releases Draft Master Plan

ADOT begins new planning phase for Sonoran Corridor

andrewsaturn · #**8422** Posted **Apr 12, 2024, 4:48 PM**

Some new renderings of the new Casino Del Sol on Grant:

The renderings look almost identical to what they have at the Casino Del Sol on Valencia, so it would make sense that they are building on brand.

More here:

https://www.kvoa.com/news/casino-del...7e1638ae4.html

andrewsaturn · #**8423** Posted **Apr 12, 2024, 6:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Patrick S

Found a few things of interest:

Rio Nuevo Board Releases Draft Master Plan

ADOT begins new planning phase for Sonoran Corridor

A master plan is what Rio Nuevo has been needing to better map out and strategize investments. I think it is interesting in Goal #7 to want to add another convention center hotel on top of the new music hall garage while also trying to develop the long time vacant and stalled Arizona hotel.

Goal #4: Housing. Specifically, a rising idea for housing for all income types around El con mall and Park Place mall is great to emphasize as a goal for underutilized parking lots.

Goal #11: Remediation of the old landfill on the West side. This needs to be done sooner rather than later. I just think of rising costs and stalled development opportunities.

https://rionuevo.org/wp-content/uplo...ft-3-26-24.pdf

CactusCat · #**8424** Posted **Apr 14, 2024, 2:38 PM**

Uptown as of 04/13/2024

andrewsaturn · #**8425** Posted **Apr 15, 2024, 2:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by CactusCat

Uptown as of 04/13/2024

Also, a drone vid from spicy drone on youtube:

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omarainza · #**8426** Posted **Apr 18, 2024, 8:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

I have no idea how you could consider a fenced off fortress "ingenious." The neighborhood might not be used to actual quality projects that know how to address a local street.

This is one that was heavily scrutinized and still got built and has an approach that is two orders of magnitude better than The Mark.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/5Vdp2oUMGtoKicwi6

honestly, there are no "quality" projects that could happen here: its a busy arterial not meant for pedestrian thoroughfare. i agree with az71 that this project, while not the best looking, improved this section immensely(from a true local view). There is no architecture that is relevant or worth preserving in this area and as a driver, it does make me feel like i am in downtown, not some crumbling, industrial bum-camp like it used to be

combusean · #**8427** Posted **Apr 19, 2024, 12:51 AM**

I actually really liked the vernacular buildings that were there before insofar as they were street fronting and very small scale.

The thing that threw me off most about the new development was the fencing and landscaped setback, but if that's what everyone wanted, you can't really argue with that. It's a very interesting study on a modern interpretation of the typical urban typology that Tucson does uniquely, and while I might not like it I can't say it doesn't contribute to the overall character of the city and it might even do it positively.

Phoenix used to do this sort of thing, poorly. Its modern urban developments like the one above could be built anywhere (which i'm not convinced is a bad thing but I digress). Architecture should inform us of where and who we are and improve our relationships to the environment accordingly, and that's been largely lost lately. It's interesting to see Tucson hold on to and perhaps improve what was more common there.

ZonaRealtor2021 · #**8428** Posted **Apr 25, 2024, 6:39 PM**

Wow,
Yet another 3 story storage unit being built by “your space” on 3 acres on the north east corner of Irvington and I-19.. my guess its behind the shopping center

andrewsaturn · #**8429** Posted **Apr 30, 2024, 4:46 PM**

A permit was issued for the new 3 story 48 bed rehabilitation hospital at Tucson Marketplace at the Bridges. The address shows it in the section below which is also the site of the new Aldi grocery store as well. Aldi is going through a massive expansion effort and this will be Tucson's first location. The area will also see a new Bass Pro shop near Costco.

andrewsaturn · #**8430** Posted **Apr 30, 2024, 4:56 PM**

Don't remember if this was already posted but the Cushing St Skate park under I-10 is moving forward with plans to start construction in the Fall.

Article:

https://thisistucson.com/tucsonlife/...ef33e8909.html

andrewsaturn · #**8431** Posted **Apr 30, 2024, 5:17 PM**

A permit was issued for the West Point Apartments II on 20 E OCHOA ST in downtown. It is a 7 story low income apartment building for seniors.

bthom3000 · #**8432** Posted **May 2, 2024, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by andrewsaturn

A permit was issued for the West Point Apartments II on 20 E OCHOA ST in downtown. It is a 7 story low income apartment building for seniors.

Why is this downtown?! There are no good options for food or services that are cheap for low income residents!!! How are we supposed to keep downtown vibrant with low income housing?! Tucsons stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

AZ71 · #**8433** Posted **May 2, 2024, 6:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by bthom3000

Why is this downtown?! There are no good options for food or services that are cheap for low income residents!!! How are we supposed to keep downtown vibrant with low income housing?! Tucsons stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

I agree with you. Elderly people frequent doctors, hospitals, pharmacies and grocery stores. None of those are downtown. It would have been smarter to build this within walking distance to TMC, Banner or NW Hospitals.

Patrick S · #**8434** Posted **Yesterday, 5:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by AZ71

I agree with you. Elderly people frequent doctors, hospitals, pharmacies and grocery stores. None of those are downtown. It would have been smarter to build this within walking distance to TMC, Banner or NW Hospitals.

I left Tucson 2 years ago but worked in outpatient behavioral health and substance use disorder treatment facilities in Tucson starting in 2014. I wanted to make sure we differentiate between low-income and elderly people. Though elderly people may often be low-income (or more appropriately, fixed-income), not all low-income people are elderly (nor are all elderly people low-income).

Though it may not make downtown more "vibrant" there are certain advantages for low-income residents being downtown. This area provides easy access to many county government type offices that may need to be utilized. The main Tucson library is downtown which may be beneficial to people who cannot afford internet access in their residences. Many neighborhoods in Tucson do not have good walkability including many with few to no sidewalks. Again, not all low-income people have disabilities but some do and having good sidewalks is vital for these individuals. Downtown is also home to the Ronstadt Center, the main public transportation hub in the city, allowing close access to busses to almost anywhere in the city, as well as close access to the street car. This is crucial to those who cannot afford their own means of transportation. And though not all low-income individuals have behavioral health, mental health, or substance use disorders, the area is in close proximity to various social services type centers including La Frontera's main office on 29th & I-10, their opioid treatment program 'Hope Center' behind the Children's Museum, the Southern Arizona Aids Foundation (SAAF) on Euclid just south of Broadway, El Rio's office on Congress just west of I-10, and others.