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I see this type construction quite often though I'm not sure why one over the other. Perhaps many different reasons?
costs. Depends on steel and concrete prices at the time. Toronto probably sees a 50/50 split between concrete and steel office towers. Res is all concrete.

My understanding is that concrete is very cheap in Toronto compared to many markets due to the abundant limestone mines around the city, and it's just what the industry knows how to do, and do very well.

I've notice that the large office buildings do tend to do steel though. Probably because when you are buildings that large the structural loads need special concrete that works out being more expensive than steel.

While The Well has a fairly large office building, my guess is they went with concrete as the rest of the site is concrete so it is just easier to keep going with one material.
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costs. Depends on steel and concrete prices at the time. Toronto probably sees a 50/50 split between concrete and steel office towers. Res is all concrete.

My understanding is that concrete is very cheap in Toronto compared to many markets due to the abundant limestone mines around the city, and it's just what the industry knows how to do, and do very well.

I've notice that the large office buildings do tend to do steel though. Probably because when you are buildings that large the structural loads need special concrete that works out being more expensive than steel.

While The Well has a fairly large office building, my guess is they went with concrete as the rest of the site is concrete so it is just easier to keep going with one material.
Thanks for your response and explanation. I figured cost can be one issue. Soil beneath the tower can be another reason? Post tension concrete can hold substantial amounts of load which have been used in large office towers as well. Houston, TX for example has a couple of 40+ floor towers which have used post-tension concrete.
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Thanks for your response and explanation. I figured cost can be one issue. Soil beneath the tower can be another reason? Post tension concrete can hold substantial amounts of load which have been used in large office towers as well. Houston, TX for example has a couple of 40+ floor towers which have used post-tension concrete.
Toronto’s soil conditions are generally pretty favourable - in that bedrock is only 20-30 feet down for most of the core. It’s not much of an issue from my understanding.

While I don’t work in construction pricing, I work in the development industry, and the explanation I’ve heard is that it all just comes down to material costs.
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