HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Alberta & British Columbia > Calgary > Calgary Issues, Business, Politics & the Economy


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #21  
Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 2:52 PM
shreddog shreddog is online now
Beer me Captain
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Taking a Pis fer all of ya
Posts: 5,174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wooster View Post
One of the national papers did an article the other day on whether Obama would be good for Harper. While he said that it might spur on a liberal insugence, ...
Last night on CBC Calgary, they were interviewing someone from the Liberals (didn't catch their name) and the message he keep reiterating is that yes, the left in Canada will get a bounce due to Obama.

Again, reinforcing the view that the Dems = Libs+NDP.

Having lived a number of years in the US and seen much of the Dem policies first hand, nothing could be further from the truth in my mind. How do the Liberal followers equate Obama's views on gay marriage (against it) and war in Afganistan (for it with an uncoming surge) to those policies that they hold dear?? I have never heard a Dem of significance fighting to implement nation wide child care or pharma care - hell they're only now warming up to a reduced form of nationwide health care. Also, where are the Dems who are advocating for an increase in immigration to levels comparable to Canada??

IMHO, Canada and the US a very different politically and anyone who tries to equate their parties to our's (Cons=Rep, Dems=Libs/NDP) is to say, naive.
__________________
Leaving a Pis fer all of ya!

Do something about your future.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #22  
Old Posted Nov 6, 2008, 4:40 PM
lubicon's Avatar
lubicon lubicon is offline
Suburban dweller
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Calgary - our road planners are as bad as yours Edmonton
Posts: 5,047
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Grizzly View Post
Are you guys sure the UofC is the largest employer of Americans? There seem to be an awful lot of Americans in the oil industry.
I think the point Furry was making was the the U of C is likely the single largest employer of Americans in Calgary. The oil industry is probably the largest employer by sector, but these employees are spread out over dozens of companies.
__________________
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.

Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #23  
Old Posted Nov 8, 2008, 7:23 AM
softee's Avatar
softee softee is offline
Aimless Wanderer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Downtown Toronto
Posts: 3,392
I found this article on the CTV website, this seems like a good place to post it, of course Americans and Canadians probably have different opinions as to what equates "liberal" and "very liberal".

Canadians prefer Obama over own leaders: poll
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...9?hub=Politics

Updated Sun. Jun. 29 2008 11:00 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

A new poll suggests Canadians would prefer to vote for Barack Obama rather than cast a ballot for their own political leaders, while 45 per cent of Americans envy Canada's health care system.

The bi-national survey, conducted by the Strategic Counsel for CTV and The Globe and Mail, showed that here in Canada, Obama was more admired than Prime Minister Stephen Harper -- or any other national leader.

"Some would read (the results) as an indictment of our political leaders," the Strategic Counsel's Peter Donolo told CTV.ca. "Others would say it's an acknowledgement of the phenomenal nature of Obama's appeal. He really is a prototype of his own; he's broken the mold."

Stephane Dion trailed far behind the other leaders, just ahead of Republican presidential nominee John McCain:

* Barack Obama: 26 per cent
* Stephen Harper: 21 per cent
* Hillary Clinton: 16 per cent
* Jack Layton: 9 per cent
* Gilles Duceppe: 6 per cent
* Stephane Dion: 5 per cent
* John McCain: 3 per cent

Obama appealed to people across Canada's political spectrum, with 24 per cent of conservative-minded voters choosing him and 28 per cent of liberal thinkers.

"I think there's a sense in Canada that we're in a rut with our political situation, and I think there's a fatigue with the nature of politics in Ottawa as we watch it through question period -- the very cranky, minority-government style politics. There's a little more envy than usual south of the border," said Donolo.

This recent poll by The Strategic Counsel surveyed 1,000 Canadians and 1,000 people in the United States.

When it came to health care, 45 per cent of Americans felt Canada had a superior system, while 42 per cent thought the United States should stick with its own.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of Canadians, 91 per cent, felt that Canada's health care system was better than the United States.

Canada tilts to the left

When Canadian respondents were asked how to define their political views, regardless of how they actually vote, slightly more than half described themselves as liberal:

* Very liberal: 12 per cent
* Liberal: 39 per cent
* Conservative: 38 per cent
* Very conservative: 3 per cent

Respondents in the United States were slanted in the other direction, and also had more people who considered themselves on the extreme right of the political spectrum:

* Very conservative: 10 per cent
* Conservative: 47 per cent
* Liberal: 30 per cent
* Very liberal: 7 per cent

"In general, I think on a lot of issues the United States are a more polarized society," said Donolo. "When you look at the number of how many hardcore conservatives there are in the U.S., it's a pretty significant number."

Gay marriage

The same poll also suggested Canadians are far more liberal than Americans, with 70 per cent supporting gay marriage.

When it came to gay marriage, 68 per cent of Canadians backed supported it, while 28 per cent were against it. In 2005, when the government was considering whether to repeal the gay marriage bill, 55 per cent were in favour of gay marriage.

"I think this points to the reality being a lot less threatening to people than the concept. As people have gotten used to the issue, there's been less anxiety over it," said Donolo.

Aside from being more politically right-of-centre, Americans also appear to be more religious.

Respondents in the United States went to religious services more frequently than Canadians:

* Every week or almost every week: Canada 23 per cent, U.S. 46 per cent
* Once a month: Canada 8 per cent, U.S. 11 per cent
* A couple of times a year: Canada 27 per cent, U.S. 16 per cent
* Never or hardly ever: Canada 42 per cent, U.S. 27 per cent

Technical notes

The poll was conducted between June 12-22 by The Strategic Counsel for CTV and The Globe and Mail.

The sample size was 1,000 people in each country. A proportionate random national sample has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.I found this article on the CTV we
__________________
Public transit is the lifeblood of every healthy city.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #24  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 8:44 AM
AJphx AJphx is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 948
Quote:
Originally Posted by freeweed View Post
I did my part last month, and gave some money to the campaign.
Are you a US citizen?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #25  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 1:42 PM
freeweed's Avatar
freeweed freeweed is offline
Home of Hyperchange
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Dynamic City, Alberta
Posts: 17,566
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJphx View Post
Are you a US citizen?
No. Anyone can purchase items sold at campaign headquarters.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #26  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 3:40 PM
wild wild west wild wild west is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Dynamic City
Posts: 6,076
/\I bought the Mrs. some DNC paraphenalia when I was down in Denver...does that count?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #27  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 7:26 PM
freeweed's Avatar
freeweed freeweed is offline
Home of Hyperchange
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Dynamic City, Alberta
Posts: 17,566
Quote:
Originally Posted by wild wild west View Post
/\I bought the Mrs. some DNC paraphenalia when I was down in Denver...does that count?
That's what I was originally referring to. That money goes towards the campaign, is my understanding.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #28  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 8:15 PM
wild wild west wild wild west is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Dynamic City
Posts: 6,076
Ah, I see.
Reply With Quote
     
     
End
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Alberta & British Columbia > Calgary > Calgary Issues, Business, Politics & the Economy
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 7:15 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.