Boise Development Thread - Part II

[Evo5Boise]

Originally Posted by Tensei

Hey Boise Development thread! Long time lurker first time poster here, thought I would make my first appearance with some stuff I've seen recently development wise! Starting with some design changes to the AC Hotel/Element by Westin off 10th and Grove St. I found these renders on Boise's Design Review Committee Meeting on the 12th. These renders were originally created by Ernstad Architects, all credits go to them.

AC hotel before and after
AC hotel 2

It's a shame that the design is much more bland , but on the bright side at least it means that we'll hopefully see some ground breaking on that site soon!

Thanks for the update. At first glance I liked the new design. Thought it looked "cleaner" looking. The more I look at it though, I'm not so sure. I like the roof overhang on the previous rendering.

Also, it appears a brown/tan to me. What is with this city's obsession with brown buildings?

[Tensei]

Continuing my journey through the Planning and Zoning commission's most recent meeting, here is a new development on State and Fargo! Render by Hillside Architecture.

Perspective of development from State

Seems like it will have 33 units with the majority of the first floor being composed of commercial space. Great to see some more development along State Street! Makes me even more excited to see what comes after the new zoning code goes into effect.

[Tensei]

Originally Posted by Evo5Boise

Thanks for the update. At first glance I liked the new design. Thought it looked "cleaner" looking. The more I look at it though, I'm not so sure. I like the roof overhang on the previous rendering.

Also, it appears a brown/tan to me. What is with this city's obsession with brown buildings?

Honestly I have no idea , in the source images on the youtube stream of the meeting, the original design looks like it had brown accents. We really have a bit of an obsession with brown, and generally flesh colored buildings . Honestly I do still prefer the brown in the OG design over the grey that the new design has though.

[Tensei]

Alright for my last post of the day for my expedition through the most recent city government meetings, I bring you this new 5 story development off Federal Way and Kootenai. Renders below are all by Cushing Terrell and Hawkins Companies.

Kootenai Federal way

pico and kootenai

Height Details

This one seems super cool! I love the design with the walk-up units and with 120 the density is amazing . Plus the bench is an area I really want to see densify more in the future, it has alot of really great potential to be an even more amazing neighborhood.

[Sawtooth]

tightAlleyView by Sean, on Flickr


Renegade by Sean, on Flickr


11th by Sean, on Flickr


rXUp by Sean, on Flickr


ElevatedProtectedBikeLane by Sean, on Flickr


Ride by Sean, on Flickr


BoisEroticA by Sean, on Flickr


zOOm by Sean, on Flickr


boisErotica by Sean, on Flickr


OverTheRiver by Sean, on Flickr


Alleyporn by Sean, on Flickr

[Sawtooth]

wireFence by Sean, on Flickr


View from Main Street by Sean, on Flickr


12th&Idaho by Sean, on Flickr

[Hot_Onions]

Looks like they are going to start on the main tower soon. I believe floor 7 is the final level for the parking garage structure. The tower is really going to shoot up now!

[Cottonwood]

Thanks for the updates Tensei. We tend to only focus on downtown in this thread and there is so much going on all around the city.

and thanks Sawtooth for the photos.

[Cottonwood]

Looks like another rooftop restaurant and bar is coming to downtown. I like how the article mentions "within a mile of Boise's convention center". This location is less than 2 blocks from the convention center.

https://news.yahoo.com/15-stories-ro...erm%20visitors.

15 stories. A rooftop bar. This name-brand hotel is set to be built in downtown Boise
Gabe Barnard
Mon, July 24, 2023, 3:00 AM PDT

Two Marriott brands, Element and AC, will split the rooms in the hotel, said Jared Smith, cofounder of Eagle-based Pennbridge Lodging, the developer. The hotel would be 15 stories tall and add 296 rooms within a mile of Boise’s convention center.

The site is 1011 W. Grove St., across the street from the J.R. Simplot Co.’s headquarters in a parking lot that used to be home to the Boise Farmers Market, according to previous Statesman reporting. The Owyhee Tavern and Mulligan’s Pub and Eatery are one block north.

The Boise Post, a restaurant and bar, will be nestled underneath that roof on the 15th floor, along with 3,000 square feet of banquet space. Smith said the restaurant will serve New American cuisine — a combination of local flavors with global influence — and offer sweeping views of downtown and the Boise Foothills.

[Cottonwood]

https://www.cushmanwakefield.com/en/...rod.fire.glass

BOISE RETAIL FIVE FAST FACTS | Q2 2023
Chris Ison • 7/19/2023

Boise Outperforms U.S.
The Boise market outpaced the U.S. market in population growth, household income, and unemployment. The retail market remains on an upward trajectory based on key indicators.

Supply & Demand
Low levels of speculative construction and strong demand will likely contribute to lower vacancy and higher rents for the remainder of 2023. Demand has outpaced supply by 30.0% over the previous 15 months.

Pads Anyone?
Build-to-suit construction pad rents are reaching $45.00 per-square-foot (psf).

Strong Population Growth & Low Unemployment
Boise was ranked No. 3 in annual population growth nationwide at 2.2% and is projected to increase further, while its economy expanded at a rate of 3.4% YOY.

Strong Leasing Activity
The Boise retail market exhibited strong demand in Q2 2023, with nearly 200,000 square feet of direct leasing activity QOQ and nearly 600,000 YOY.

[Sawtooth]

Originally Posted by Hot_Onions

Looks like they are going to start on the main tower soon. I believe floor 7 is the final level for the parking garage structure. The tower is really going to shoot up now!

It does seem to be growing quickly.

Originally Posted by Cottonwood

https://news.yahoo.com/15-stories-ro...erm%20visitors.

15 stories. A rooftop bar. This name-brand hotel is set to be built in downtown Boise
Gabe Barnard
Mon, July 24, 2023, 3:00 AM PDT

Looking forward to that parking lot filled in with a highrise hotel and the potential new tallest on the Front Street side of the lot.

Downtown's pedestrian traffic has increased a lot with the addition of the impressive number of apartments that have been built. Our convention business has grown in tandem with out of towners visiting for meetings. The addition of the new hotels under construction and this new announcement will only increase the tourism and convention industry.

The already bustling pedestrian foot traffic will increase even more after 12th & Idaho and the other downtown apartments under construction are completed. We have the reputation of having the most vibrant and pedestrian friendly downtown between Portland and Denver. This reputation will only increase

So, what is up with The Ovation?

[Sawtooth]

I noticed this banner a few days ago.

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[Tensei]

Originally Posted by Sawtooth

So, what is up with The Ovation?

I couldn't find anything specific looking through the city's public documents , but I did find that in the permitting document the city made back in 2021, it says that Hovde only has until December of this year to begin construction. So we will either see ground breaking soon, or at least we'll know for sure it's not being built. Would be sad if that was the case though, it would've been a really nice looking building for the skyline

[Hot_Onions]

Originally Posted by Tensei

I couldn't find anything specific looking through the city's public documents , but I did find that in the permitting document the city made back in 2021, it says that Hovde only has until December of this year to begin construction. So we will either see ground breaking soon, or at least we'll know for sure it's not being built. Would be sad if that was the case though, it would've been a really nice looking building for the skyline

There is a more recent permit from October of 2022 that changed the height from 19 stories to 23. I believe this gives them basically all of 2024 to get going on construction. A lot of major construction projects downtown have experienced slow starts often because of the cost of supplies. The groundbreaking of 12th and Idaho was anticipated to happen in the summer of 2022 but instead didn't happen until January of this year (if I am remembering correctly).

[don-boisedev]

Originally Posted by Hot_Onions

There is a more recent permit from October of 2022 that changed the height from 19 stories to 23. I believe this gives them basically all of 2024 to get going on construction. A lot of major construction projects downtown have experienced slow starts often because of the cost of supplies. The groundbreaking of 12th and Idaho was anticipated to happen in the summer of 2022 but instead didn't happen until January of this year (if I am remembering correctly).

The issue in the Boise market is less building costs and more financing costs.

The 12th & Idaho project broke ground last September. There was a race to break ground on these two projects... one turned dirt, the other didn't.

Key thing to watch with Ovation is if a demolition permit is filed for on the existing building. Until that happens, there's no concrete sign this project will ever happen. The project's design review permit is valid until October of 2024 -- but these are routinely extended so that's not really a firm deadline.

[Sawtooth]

As a Northender, I am looking forward to this addition of density

https://ccdcboise.com/ccdc-projects/16th-state/

The 16th & State mixed-use development is a seven-story building with 104 residential units and approximately 1,600 square feet of ground-floor retail space, developed by Johnson & Carr, Inc., a Seattle-based developer focusing on providing workforce housing. The project is in the Westside Urban Renewal District on 0.36 acres at the northeast corner of 16th and State Streets.

[Cottonwood]

https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/lo...e-7c26c77360b0
City of Boise hosts grand opening of new skate park in Southwest Boise
Author: Daisy Bautista, Amanda Niess
Published: 5:29 PM MDT August 1, 2023

Grindline Skateparks designed downtown Boise’s Rhodes Skate Park back in 2016 and took the opportunity to design of Molenaar’s new skate facility. With a series of rails, boxes and a mini bowl, this new park is over 15,000 square feet with plenty of room to experiment and learn.

https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/lo...6-69a75613186a
Boise skate community set to celebrate new park
Author: Joe Parris
Published: 7:12 PM MDT July 27, 2023
Updated: 7:12 PM MDT July 27, 2023

Whether you know it or not, Boise is a skate town. Just ask Boise Parks and Recreation Director Doug Holloway, who has watched the skate community grow.

It’s easy to track seminal moments in the growth of the skate community, hosting the X Games in Boise was a huge part of that.
“We had skaters from all over the world, the top skaters from around the world," Holloway said. "It was an invite-only type of event. So, you had to be invited by ESPN in order to come to Boise, Idaho, to skate in those events."
To be a skate town, you need skate parks. Like the rest of Boise, it’s about growth. Enter, the all new Molenaar Skate Park.

[Boisebro]

Just heard that the new passenger garage at the Boise Airport will have its grand opening on August 22nd.

The employee parking garage is well underway. Not sure when the rental car garage will break ground.

[el conquistador]

Originally Posted by Boisebro

The employee parking garage is well underway. Not sure when the rental car garage will break ground.

OH I had those garages mixed up. I thought the other garage being built now was the rental car one.

[Boisebro]

found this aerial image with an angle of downtown i hadn't seen before. not sure how old it is... a photo from later in the day would've made the view of the CBD a little clearer.



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