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Old Posted Sep 19, 2017, 7:54 PM
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They certainly did put some work into that rendering. In that it makes no sense. The Park building is on the left where it should be yet the PNC1 tower and former Lazarus building somehow jumped across the street and replaced the Warner Centre and Tower at PNC Plaza.
I was referring to the Pinkerton's restaurant rendering in the Frick building
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Old Posted Sep 19, 2017, 8:22 PM
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The two main parts of the article:

"...Oxford expects to work on the initial planning for the Packaging Corporation of America site over the next six to eight weeks and hopes to be able to present a proposal to Pittsburgh city planning next spring."

"Oxford also is beginning to look seriously at plans for the building it has under agreement at 2620 Smallman St."
The PCA site was my top guess. So, discounting the sites which are going to be redeveloped in the future, but haven't yet (Consumer Produce building is now owned by NYC investment firm, and city is going to market its DPW site between 29th and 31st Street, all that's left which isn't slated to be developed is:

1. A small lot next to the Cork Factory currently used for parking for the marina. At one point a botique hotel was suggested on this space, but that project seems to be dead.

2. Two lots sandwiched between the Cork Factory and the Oxford building currently going up. The Cork Factory Lawn is owned by Pitt Ohio. I presume this wasn't sold to Oxford because the lot next to it is used for parking by J. Harris & Sons, who clearly weren't ready to sell out to Oxford, given Three Crossings essentially surrounds them on all sides. If they could develop the plots together, it would get them a plot of the same width as Riverfront East/West

3. A small warehouse next to Pitt Ohio's new office.

That's it. Everything else is being built out, has been bought out, or will soon be sold.
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2017, 11:22 AM
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The PCA site was my top guess. So, discounting the sites which are going to be redeveloped in the future, but haven't yet (Consumer Produce building is now owned by NYC investment firm, and city is going to market its DPW site between 29th and 31st Street, all that's left which isn't slated to be developed is:

1. A small lot next to the Cork Factory currently used for parking for the marina. At one point a botique hotel was suggested on this space, but that project seems to be dead.

2. Two lots sandwiched between the Cork Factory and the Oxford building currently going up. The Cork Factory Lawn is owned by Pitt Ohio. I presume this wasn't sold to Oxford because the lot next to it is used for parking by J. Harris & Sons, who clearly weren't ready to sell out to Oxford, given Three Crossings essentially surrounds them on all sides. If they could develop the plots together, it would get them a plot of the same width as Riverfront East/West

3. A small warehouse next to Pitt Ohio's new office.

That's it. Everything else is being built out, has been bought out, or will soon be sold.
Amazing.

Just a guess, but I would think something on (1) moves forward no later than around when the Consumers Produce site gets done. As I recall the investors gave Consumers Produce something like a 5-year lease back, after which the expectation is they will move out and redevelopment will commence.
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2017, 12:34 PM
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I was referring to the Pinkerton's restaurant rendering in the Frick building
LOL. I think that may be a tongue-in-cheek easter egg referring to Henry Clay Frick's history with the Pinkertons.
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2017, 12:55 PM
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Just a guess, but I would think something on (1) moves forward no later than around when the Consumers Produce site gets done. As I recall the investors gave Consumers Produce something like a 5-year lease back, after which the expectation is they will move out and redevelopment will commence.
Yeah. I agree it makes the most sense for the NYC firm which bought Consumers Produce to buy that skinny lot. It would give their potential redevelopment frontage on 23rd Street, and allow for a full two blocks of land to work with.
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2017, 6:06 PM
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LOL. I think that may be a tongue-in-cheek easter egg referring to Henry Clay Frick's history with the Pinkertons.
I certainly think so. That would be a hell of a coincidence if not.

A second guess could be that it's named after Weezer's excellent second album, Pinkerton. Personally my favorite Weezer album. I had two hamsters in high school I got for a science project and then pets (I recreated the Pavlov's dog experiment with them) and they were named Rivers (as in Rivers Cuomo the lead singer) and Pinkerton.
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2017, 7:33 PM
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Next time that happens, put the headline into MSN/Bing and click on the article in the search results. This used to work with Google news, but still does with Microsoft, probably because publishers don't give a shit about them and only worry about Google.
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Some more details of the planned overhaul of the Freight House at Station Square:

http://www.post-gazette.com/business...s/201709210084

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Jim LaRue, director of asset management of the Cleveland-based developer, said Wednesday he is negotiating with Pittsburgh health system UPMC to take about 35,000 square feet of space in the southeast corner of the Freight House Shops for use as a corporate training center. While the deal has yet to be signed, Mr. LaRue said the two sides are “pretty far along” in the talks. . . .

Mr. LaRue said Forest City is planning to add restaurants on both sides of Station Square Drive, which cuts through the complex. It would create something akin to a restaurant row running from the Grand Concourse to the Sheraton Pittsburgh Hotel. The plan is to open the restaurants along the stretch to the street and then add patios and outdoor seating. A similar arrangement is planned inside, with more open seating in the common areas. . . . Station Square is now home to about a dozen restaurants, including the Grand Concourse and adjacent Gandy Dancer Saloon, the Hard Rock Cafe, Houlihan’s, Texas de Brazil and Buca di Beppo. Rascal Flatts restaurant, named after the country music group, is taking over the 7,463-square-foot former Bar Louie space, located in Bessemer Court, and will feature a full-service bar and live entertainment. No opening date has been set. . . .

Arthur Ziegler, president of the History and Landmarks Foundation, which was responsible for turning the old railroad property into Station Square, said Forest City has discussed the renovation plans with him in general terms. He said he feels good about the direction. “I think that it needs some new anchors and revitalization, so we’re looking forward to seeing the upgrades, investments, and changes and who the tenants might be. We have a class A facility here and it needs to be restored to that status and they’re committed to doing that,” Mr. Ziegler said.

Forest City had at one time considered replacing the Freight House Shops, but ultimately decided against that. . . . This fall, Trammell Crow Co. is expected to get started on a 319-unit apartment complex on the east side of Station Square. The $60 million development is expected to feature two five-story buildings connected by a pedestrian bridge, a 340-space parking garage and 3,200 square feet of retail.
I think this is a solid plan. Indoor mall retail is not a healthy sector, to say the least, and converting some of that interior space to offices may be necessary to keeping this part of the complex financially sustainable. But restaurants with outdoor space are popular, and probably will benefit from the planned developments in the parking lots to the east of the Smithfield Bridge.

By the way, what I'd really love to see is a better tie-in to the Mon Incline. This is what you see currently at the base of the incline as you look at Station Square:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4325...7i13312!8i6656

That's a real wasted opportunity. There has to be a better way of directing people over to this new outdoor district they are creating. I'd love a pedestrian bridge over Carson and a direct passage around or through the Freight House. Actually, I'm enough of a historic train geek that I'd love to continue an elevated walking path straight OVER the top of the Freight House:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/St...6!4d-80.004639

But if not that, at least something like some colorful signage--"Just Around the Corner for Restaurants X, Y, Z!" sort of thing. There is no excuse for it looking so uninviting when just some paint and a sign could make a huge difference.
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Old Posted Sep 21, 2017, 12:12 PM
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By the way, what I'd really love to see is a better tie-in to the Mon Incline. This is what you see currently at the base of the incline as you look at Station Square:
The whole Carson Street side of Station Square has always been a disaster. There's not even a sidewalk there.
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Old Posted Sep 21, 2017, 7:04 PM
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New Planning Commission presentation. Five new items.

1. A small zoning change along Grandview, turning a portion of the AP (mixed-used planned development) zone into GPR-C (Grandview Public Realm). The parcel in question is a vacant one next to Isabella on Grandview. The planned ultimate use is for a banquet hall, exterior stair, and loading space, thus probably for an expansion of said restaurant. I would guess the rezoning gives the developer more flexibility than the old AP zone did.

2. CMU wants to develop a new 36,000 square foot, four-story facility for educational classroom and research use. The proposed building is within its core campus approximately here. It will take out a small surface lot, which is a plus, effectively merging two buildings together.

3. AT&T wants a new high wall sign for North Shore Drive. It's pretty small, and will really only be viewable from 279.

4. 225 Boulevard of the Allies is getting a complete renovation. The proposed new facade is kind of bleh, but it's a step up from the totally blank glass wall that's there currently.

5. Pittsburgh is presenting its new climate action plan in the presentation.

In addition, another HRC presentation has landed. The most interesting/unfortunate element is "Moe's Landing" is dead. A new building will still be going in at that location (Cherries Diner is already moving into the old Franktuary spot), but it will be a one-story structure which is much more boring than the previously suggested three-story building.

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Old Posted Sep 21, 2017, 7:12 PM
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The most interesting/unfortunate element is "Moe's Landing" is dead. A new building will still be going in at that location (Cherrie's Diner is already moving into the old Franktuary spot), but it will be a one-story structure which is much more boring than the previously suggested three-story building.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

(But seriously, no to only a one-story building on Market Square.)
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Old Posted Sep 21, 2017, 7:23 PM
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Bakery-behemoth La Gourmandine is opening a fourth location Downtown, in the former Penn Avenue Fish Company space:

http://www.post-gazette.com/life/din...s/201709210143

Hopefully they have that sewer issue fixed.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2017, 6:51 AM
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Drove past this on Ardmore Blvd in Forest Hills on my way to work the other day. Looks like they are developing it to be affordable housing for Veterans and seniors. If I am correct, this use to be a roller skating rink?


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http://www.actionhousing.org/index.p...terans-housing
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2017, 10:02 AM
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The Pittsburgh team is soliciting landowners to come forward with possible options to pitch to Amazon:

http://www.post-gazette.com/business...s/201709210160

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Leaders of the bid to bring Amazon’s proposed second headquarters to Pittsburgh are calling on developers to put their best sites forward. Dubbed Amazon HQ2 Team Pittsburgh, the regional partnership assembled to lure the Seattle-based e-commerce giant issued a request for expressions of interest Thursday seeking potential sites for the massive headquarters.

While some locations like Almono in Hazelwood are considered frontrunners in the bid, regional leaders didn’t want to overlook possible opportunities, said Kevin Acklin, chief of staff to Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto. “We’re asking every site owner who wants to be part of this process to respond to the request,” he said. The team is asking site owners or developers to respond by 10 a.m. Thursday, Sept. 28. . . .

In addition to the 178-acre Almono site, others that could be considered for at least a portion of the headquarters include the 28-acre former Civic Arena site in the lower Hill District, the 195-acre World Trade Center site at Pittsburgh International Airport, and the 15-acre former J. Allan Steel site and associated properties on the North Side near Rivers Casino. Mr. Acklin said the former Parkway Center Mall, the 47-acre Riverfront 47 site that straddles parts of Aspinwall, O’Hara, and Sharpsburg, and sites on the South Side also could fit the bill.
We sketched out this idea from the beginning and it makes sense to me.

I might note I am pretty curious about why we have not heard from Buncher yet. You might need to get a little creative with connectivity, but otherwise this could be a pretty sweet set of locations:


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Drove past this on Ardmore Blvd in Forest Hills on my way to work the other day. Looks like they are developing it to be affordable housing for Veterans and seniors. If I am correct, this use to be a roller skating rink?


Website for the development:
http://www.actionhousing.org/index.p...terans-housing
I thought they were tearing that down, it's been abandoned forever. Glad they're preserving it, looks to be from the mid 1920s or so.
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Drove past this on Ardmore Blvd in Forest Hills on my way to work the other day. Looks like they are developing it to be affordable housing for Veterans and seniors. If I am correct, this use to be a roller skating rink?


Website for the development:
http://www.actionhousing.org/index.p...terans-housing
No, the old skating rink is further east at Yost Blvd under the PNC Bank Bldg.
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The Pittsburgh team is soliciting landowners to come forward with possible options to pitch to Amazon:

http://www.post-gazette.com/business...s/201709210160



We sketched out this idea from the beginning and it makes sense to me.

I might note I am pretty curious about why we have not heard from Buncher yet. You might need to get a little creative with connectivity, but otherwise this could be a pretty sweet set of locations:

Two pieces of infrastructure that have been proposed in recent years that would help with that connectivity are the rebuild of the incline from the Lower Hill to the Strip District and for some reason I seem to recall a proposal to reuse the unused lower deck of the Fort Wayne Railroad Bridge as a pedestrian corridor connecting the Convention Center and North Shore. It would be a start.
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Two pieces of infrastructure that have been proposed in recent years that would help with that connectivity are the rebuild of the incline from the Lower Hill to the Strip District and for some reason I seem to recall a proposal to reuse the unused lower deck of the Fort Wayne Railroad Bridge as a pedestrian corridor connecting the Convention Center and North Shore. It would be a start.
Those are both good ideas with or without Amazon.

I also think whenever the lowest part of the Lower Hill gets developed, it would be nice to have a more direct connection to Penn Station. I seem to recall something--maybe in the Maglev context?--where they had an elevator tower and connecting skybridges.
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Really interesting article on Enright Court:

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/ci...s/201709240009

The area could look better, including from Broad Street (where you are looking at the backs of some homes). But overall I am persuaded this is a success story and the primary goal should be helping the homeowners to benefit from the new development activity going on around them.
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2017, 3:09 PM
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Those are both good ideas with or without Amazon.

I also think whenever the lowest part of the Lower Hill gets developed, it would be nice to have a more direct connection to Penn Station. I seem to recall something--maybe in the Maglev context?--where they had an elevator tower and connecting skybridges.
Yes, I believe you are describing something like this. The overlook/elevator structure at the Salvador Mercado Modelo Market in Brazil.

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