ST. CATHARINES-NIAGARA FALLS | Niagara Region Development Thread - Page 9

mucciared · #**161** Posted **Oct 20, 2006, 4:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by drafty

Maybe because the picture that they used doesn't show the Fallsview Casino hotel, Embassy Suites, Hilton, Oakes or the Skywheel that would give a little perspective. I think any of the tall hotels, shown without actual surroundings, look out of place.

Lmao, of all things to include in the rendering - a hotel not even built, all while leaving out nearly the entire Fallsview district.

Where did you find this Fallsview?

mucciared · #**162** Posted **Oct 20, 2006, 4:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by drafty

I was out at Niagara Square yesterday to check out the new Future Shop. I was dumbfounded to discover that the 3 new stores (Future Shop, Linens n Things and Petcetera) have no access to the mall, only Winners does. I can't understand why the stores wouldn't want access or why RioCan wouldn't demand it. If I was going to one of these stores specifically, I probably wouldn't bother going into the mall, and conversely, if I was in the mall (especially in the winter), I wouldn't venture back outside to get to these new stores. Any thoughts as to why they have done this?

Stone Road Mall in Guelph did the same thing with their new stores... Old Navy, Pier 1, etc. If I'm going to the mall in the winter I don't want to walk outside. I maybe visit these stores once out of every three visits to the mall. It's too much of an inconvenience especially since I probably won't buy anything from them... maybe if it was Future Shop.

fastcarsfreedom · #**163** Posted **Oct 21, 2006, 5:13 PM**

The design of these renovated malls--with big-box stores clustered around the exterior of the mall facing outward with no interior connection is the latest wave in traditional mall development. Basically it gives the traditional regional shopping centers a way to compete with Big Box Power Centers--basically creating a hybrid approach. You'll note that most of the retailers mentioned--Winners, Linens N Things, Best Buy, etc, are not retailers that normally locate at traditional indoor malls.

The big local mall here in Windsor did the same thing--they lined the entire front face of the mall with big box stores--Chapters, Old Navy, Marks Work Wearhouse, etc.

FALLSVIEW · #**164** Posted **Oct 21, 2006, 9:39 PM**

I lived in Windsor when they opened these stores. I remember everyone asking why there wasn't an entrance to Old Navy from the inside. I can tell you personally when your trying to Christmas shop and you have to go back out into the cold to get to a store, it isn't the most pleasing experience! Chapters however does have an interior mall entrance.

The rendering of the Niagara Condominium and Rainbow Tower was found at the Niagara Developments website. I also thought it was funny that they included the Rainbow Tower and none of the completed highrises. I personally think the Rainbow Tower will never be built, it's just to tall for that location, and I'm not sure how well the waterpark has done. They need to get a large sign on the side of the building that says waterpark, amazingly you actually can't tell what it is up there. They should also advertise for "everyone" to come and enjoy it, not just those staying at there hotels.

Mucciared, I think the Golden Griddle is now open at the Ramada Inn, the Peppers sign is still up as well! I brought my kids to the amusement area in the Skylon Tower. The administrative office not suprisingly knew nothing about any Hotels being developed nor had they even heard of the North and South towers. Once again I feel the need to vent about this cheap ass company and how little they have done with their properties considering how long they have owned them. If you actually walk around the tower it is in really really rough shape!

I don't think they are doing anymore to the Pyramid Place building either.The only thing they had heard about was a hotel being cancelled near there property, the only one I could think of was the Westin Hotel / Hotel at Jolley.

A public notice is up at the Denny's beside the Hilton confirming what Mucciared had posted earlier about the amendment to the existing Hilton expansion.

I just noticed on the Niagara development website, that the Motel 6 on Stanley avenue is proposed at 6 stories and 130 units.

FALLSVIEW · #**165** Posted **Oct 21, 2006, 9:56 PM**

CANADIAN TIRE COMING SUMMER 2007

This is now posted on the Niagara Development website:

Canadian Tire
7555 MONTROSE RD Niagara Square Mall
Proposal Date: 10/13/2006

A 94,000 square foot store. Construction is expected to begin Spring 2007 and completed Summer 2007. It will be located on the northwest corner of the mall's property.

FALLSVIEW · #**166** Posted **Oct 21, 2006, 10:17 PM**

I realize that this is old news, but I just wanted to include this rendering of the finished Aquarium at Marineland.

FALLSVIEW · #**167** Posted **Oct 21, 2006, 10:44 PM**

Grand Niagara Golf Resort

Proposed Grand Niagara Club House

The Vineyard Course

This was proposed earlier this year

Grand Niagara Resort Inc., a partnership that owns and operates a new golf course in Niagara Falls, Ontario, is planning a C$300 million expansion of the facility. At its completion, scheduled for 2010, the 800-acre complex will include another golf course, a Hilton hotel, conference facility, time-share condos, homesites, a winery and a pair of manmade lakes. Investors in the first course included golfer Greg Norman, who will lend his name to the second 18-hole course. The Hilton will include 350 rooms and a 20,000-square-foot spa and recreation area, and there will be about 300 time-share units and 220 homesites.

FALLSVIEW · #**168** Posted **Oct 23, 2006, 1:54 AM**

AUTO LINE TOYOTA
NEW LOCATION WILL BE "6030 THOROLD STONE ROAD"

FALLSVIEW · #**169** Posted **Oct 23, 2006, 2:57 AM**

Boulevard Collection

Condominium Tower South St. Catharines

FALLSVIEW · #**170** Posted **Oct 23, 2006, 10:00 PM**

Public Meeting Notice

Official Plan and Zoning By-Law Amendment Application
Monday, November 20, 2006 @7pm

The amendments are requested for a 1.05 hectare (2.6 acre) parcel of land on the south side of Marineland Parkway, west of Stanley avenue, as seen below on Google Earth. The amendments are requested to permit the development of two 8-story condominium apartment dwellings, with a total of 196 dwelling units.

This land is located where the entrance is for the Thundering Waters Golf Course. It is currently zoned tourist commercial in the City's official plan. This would allow a variety of tourist commercial uses to be developed on the lands only up to 4 stories in height.

NINA's Marineland Place

Proposed Luxury Condominium Location

CLICK> GOOGLE EARTH NIAGARA FALLS

WhipperSnapper · #**171** Posted **Oct 24, 2006, 12:37 AM**

^http://www.napev.com/propose.html

FALLSVIEW · #**172** Posted **Oct 24, 2006, 3:15 AM**

Thanks for the info and website goodlookin'!!!

AUTOLAND SUPERSTORE COMING SOON?

mucciared · #**173** Posted **Oct 24, 2006, 4:23 AM**

Are those proposed condos named NINA's Marineland Place??? Great find though.

The location seems kind of weird. Are they any grocery stores or banks really close? To me it just seems kind of out of place - but I don't really drive down that way.

mucciared · #**174** Posted **Oct 24, 2006, 4:28 AM**

Are those proposed condos named NINA's Marineland Place??? Great find though.

The location seems kind of weird. Are they any grocery stores or banks really close? To me it just seems kind of out of place - but I don't really drive down that way.

drafty · #**175** Posted **Oct 24, 2006, 4:47 PM**

That location is basically the east end of McLeod Rd. so there are no stores or banks real close. Canadian Tire, Food Basics, Niagara Square are just up the road, but not walkable. But I forgot, they are luxury condos: they'll just send the hired help to the stores

FALLSVIEW · #**176** Posted **Oct 25, 2006, 3:28 PM**

Mucciared has e/mailed me two images that have not been posted yet. I have now added them to the first page.

Skylon Tower and Pavilion

The redevelopment of the landmark Skylon Tower site marks the beginning of a new era in the reconfiguration of the world famous Niagara Falls tourist destination. In association with RTKL and ID8, Petroff Partnership Architects created a multi-use entertainment destination which would address the needs of visitors and residents of all ages throughout the day and night. Modeled upon the new retail breed of Urban Entertainment Centres, this complex is pedestrian oriented, creates both indoor and outdoor gathering spaces, is punctuated with key tenants who act as activity generators; creating a vibrant, dynamic entertainment development. Themed on local cultural elements including the Falls and Water generation, the buildings borrow language from this famous context.The Skylon Tower and Pavillion includes renovations to the Skylon Tower building of approximately 160,000 square feet, plus an integrated new building of approximately 450,000 square feet with two retail/entertainment levels above a four level parking structure, and two new attached hotels

MARRIOTT DEVELOPMENT

It's amazing how many project proposals showed up after the two Casinos opened their respective doors. I think investors thought this would be a poor mans Las Vegas. Unfortunately 9/11, Sars, a strong Canadian dollar, and the passport law have pretty much pushed tourist numbers well below there original projections. With that said Niagara Falls continues to draw millions of people from around the world, and the Falls themselves will always produce tourists.

Thanks for the images Mucciared!

FALLSVIEW · #**177** Posted **Oct 25, 2006, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by drafty

That location is basically the east end of McLeod Rd. so there are no stores or banks real close. Canadian Tire, Food Basics, Niagara Square are just up the road, but not walkable. But I forgot, they are luxury condos: they'll just send the hired help to the stores

Your right drafty, there is nothing near these condos at all and Canadian Tire will soon be moving further away. But it could eventually develop into a hot spot, just down the road from the Fallsview district and at the front gates of Thundering Waters. If you look at the stretch of Stanley avenue from the Fallsview section to Mcleod rd. it has been widened and has nice modern light posts all the way down. This might be the direction that the Fallsview tourism and future condo towers head!

FALLSVIEW · #**178** Posted **Oct 25, 2006, 10:21 PM**

IHOP RESTAURANT
COMING TO
NIAGARA FALLS

Company Signs First Expansion Agreement for Franchise Development in Eastern Canada

IHOP Corp. (NYSE:IHP) announced that it has secured additional Multi-Store and Single-Store Development Agreements during the third quarter 2006 for its franchisees to build an additional 20 new IHOP restaurants over the next eight years. These agreements provide for the development of new IHOP restaurants in the states of Georgia, Virginia and Washington, as well as for international development in Ontario, Canada and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

• Pancakes Canada Limited controlled by the Alfieri Group has agreed to develop three new IHOP restaurants over the next five years in a portion of the region of Niagara, including Niagara Falls and the city of Barrie, Ontario, Canada. Pancakes Canada Limited is a franchisee new to the IHOP system. The Alfieri Group possesses more than 55 years of restaurant operations experience, with successful casual Italian themed, family restaurant operations in Niagara Falls, Ontario.

CLICK HERE FOR COMPLETE ARTICLE!

realcity · #**179** Posted **Oct 26, 2006, 2:50 PM**

Those Mariotts look a lot like the Hilton. Were are they going? They have the Courtyard Marriot is this going on that land?

WhipperSnapper · #**180** Posted **Oct 26, 2006, 3:34 PM**

so neither of the two marriott towers already exists