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Old Posted Jun 24, 2018, 5:05 PM
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Yes. Its been the hot spot for a lot of new business and tenant relocation. Even to the point of threatening the power balance in Midtown East.
Well, to be kinda fair, HY has been a work in progress for quite some time now, whereas MtE is a comparatively much newer response to present needs.

Plusthe fact that the Yards has a more resi-friendly appeal. And certainly that aspect of the City's continued development into a 21st Century viable place needs addressing.
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2018, 9:37 PM
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Its also ground up construction (HY). So not taking existing towers and either renovate/converting them OR taking an existing tower, demolishing it, and building from the ground up. One is arguably cheaper, timetable wise quicker, the other is time-consuming, and expensive. So one could say Midtown West is a bigger bargain. Folks also like new. Speed of delivery is important, and thats what HY offers, along with all of the in-demand modern necessities for corps and establishments alike. Not that Midtown East can't offer that, but at a cost, and most importantly, time.
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2018, 5:46 AM
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https://newyorkyimby.com/2018/06/tis...son-yards.html

Gotta love this rendering where the rest of HY has been raptured....



And uh, I'm pretty sure the Sherry Netherland hasn't moved down to W 34th St, lol!


^pretty nice rhd driverless Ferrari, too!

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Old Posted Jun 26, 2018, 12:44 AM
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Bjarke Ingels has designed 2 spectacular medium-sized tower projects . .
both very sophisticated, for the westside riverfront of Manhattan . .
one is finished, a pyramid structure at W57th St . . and a two twisting-towers project,
around the high-line & W18th St, now under construction . .
both outrageously fun, innovative, confident, even serious masterpieces . .

but I'm no fan of his super-tall NYC tower work . .
His psyche must change working at the more impressive scale . .
Does he get overwhelmed & defensive or something . .
it seems to come out all self-important and self-conscious . .
like he wants to force some sophomoric statement, with impunity . .
with immature, clunky bad buildings . . bad Gargantuan buildings . .

2 WTC & the Spiral are "So What !", "I don't care", unresolved work . .
dug-in small ideas (different than sublime simplicity) . .
at a full, can't ignore 1000+ft. scale . . and bothof these Ingels supertalls,
will seriously compromise the dignity, of a nearby soaring giant landmark,
(1WTC & 30HY). . with bombastic mediocrity . .

the attitude seems to be . .
I'm a big-shot bad-boy, super-starchitect, designing Super-talls in Manhattan . .
whatever I do is great . . so I'm punking your skyline with 2 of my biggest farts . .
just 'cause I can . . Sorry Bjarke, we don't all have to bow down . .

some artists just work better on smaller canvasses . .
doesn't mean that the work is any less significant . .
it can be just as important as monumental work . .
Bjarke, your smaller work is fantastic . . lots more of that please . .
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2018, 4:02 PM
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2018, 12:46 AM
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Bjarke Ingels has designed 2 spectacular medium-sized tower projects . .
both very sophisticated, for the westside riverfront of Manhattan . .
one is finished, a pyramid structure at W57th St . . and a two twisting-towers project,
around the high-line & W18th St, now under construction . .
both outrageously fun, innovative, confident, even serious masterpieces . .

but I'm no fan of his super-tall NYC tower work . .
His psyche must change working at the more impressive scale . .
Does he get overwhelmed & defensive or something . .
it seems to come out all self-important and self-conscious . .
like he wants to force some sophomoric statement, with impunity . .
with immature, clunky bad buildings . . bad Gargantuan buildings . .

2 WTC & the Spiral are "So What !", "I don't care", unresolved work . .
dug-in small ideas (different than sublime simplicity) . .
at a full, can't ignore 1000+ft. scale . . and bothof these Ingels supertalls,
will seriously compromise the dignity, of a nearby soaring giant landmark,
(1WTC & 30HY). . with bombastic mediocrity . .

the attitude seems to be . .
I'm a big-shot bad-boy, super-starchitect, designing Super-talls in Manhattan . .
whatever I do is great . . so I'm punking your skyline with 2 of my biggest farts . .
just 'cause I can . . Sorry Bjarke, we don't all have to bow down . .

some artists just work better on smaller canvasses . .
doesn't mean that the work is any less significant . .
it can be just as important as monumental work . .
Bjarke, your smaller work is fantastic . . lots more of that please . .

No, it's far better than 50HY, 55HY, 3HY(recent render), and many other office towers. Foster's next door is outdated looking and he should be lambasted for desiging a dull tower given his talents and reputation for making imaginative buildings. Rant about him rather than Bjarke who is imaginative and bringing new ideas to the typical corporate box. It's very likely given trends that without BIG, this would have been a boring conventional box.

Some heavy psuedo-psychobabble in there about Ingles too.

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Old Posted Jul 12, 2018, 7:14 PM
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The base facade on this one is pretty good. Good tower all around, better than the adjacent towers that are rather dull imo.

What is the tower to the left on the render?
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2018, 7:24 PM
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I don't think this is a bad tower. The same design would look much better if it was slimmer. But, here, form must follow function. As a modern office tower, it needs this breadth and large floor plates. I suppose you could say the design should have been different given its function, but it's not terrible.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2018, 8:16 PM
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I don't think this is a bad tower. The same design would look much better if it was slimmer. But, here, form must follow function. As a modern office tower, it needs this breadth and large floor plates. I suppose you could say the design should have been different given its function, but it's not terrible.
Going to disagree there. NY has enough pencil towers going up. Time for them to start building more real skyscrapers, with some presence. I do think that the tower cold look better if it were about 50m taller though
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