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Old Posted Jan 26, 2015, 8:56 PM
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At the meeting, did they say that the height was to the roof or does it exclude mechanical? I'm wondering if some architectural elements could make this break the 1000 foot mark.
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That would leave quite the impact on the skyline - by the looks of all of those neighboring parking lots, there's a lot of opportunity for more.
The Jersey City waterfront was almost entirely a train yard a few decades ago. As the first towers went up they came with acres of parking lot. Now one by one parking lots are being turned into high rises. I can think of 4 buildings under construction in the last year that did this, and there are nearly a dozen planned buildings more.

If everything planned was constructed, Jersey City would probably have more skyscrapers than nearly every other city in the US besides NY.
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2015, 2:53 PM
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Don't forget about Liberty Rising. That could top this in terms of height. Construction on this project is definite, and will occur in the spring.
I would say do forget about that one. This one makes sense for it's location, and is about a parcel that has been slated for residential highrise development. The other is more about casinos, and racing, and other such nonsense, carrots dangled before the eyes of politicians who would welcome any massive development.



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Yimby published the render of the video in better resoltion.




I saw that the mayor said this would be something to put Jersey City more on the map.

I would say it will do so in the way the Goldman Sachs did (or even the Citgroup in Queens). From what we've seen so far, it's a larger version of a big tower that just happens to be the biggest on the skyline.

For a skyline defining tower, or something to identify Jersey City as more than just backdrop to the lower Manhattan skyline, the design needs much more.

The base is fine for where it is.

Also, it's just a PATH stop away from the WTC and all of the development taking place there. It will be attractive to a lot of people.

I did see on the news some people being concerned and amazed at the scale of the tower, which I found hilarious because you could see the Freedom Tower looming in the background.



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^^^

Thats true, I was just pointing it out. Yeah I don't see the casino proposal as realistic. IDK, maybe if it was used as residential instead of a casino then maybe something positive could rise. Time will tell. Also just making sure so others don't misread my quote (post #57 ) that "this project" is referring to 99 Hudson, not Liberty.
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This one is good to go, though it is a large number of condos.
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No sales on this one. Going straight to construction. Very unusual for condos. Is it a vote of confidence in the market?
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so it really will be 990ft? wow. alrighty then. its a good fit at that site, it looks pretty good and there will be nice face view of it from across the river. are there any more hurdles? when can/will they start?
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No sales on this one. Going straight to construction. Very unusual for condos. Is it a vote of confidence in the market?
I'd say most likely. Even in NYC, developments go up, and sell out extremely quickly. Sometimes in the outer boroughs, construction commences very rapidly. One of JC's biggest benefits towards sales is the fact that it has good train access, and is right near NYC. Buyers who might be reluctant to purchase a Manhattan property will probably consider JC as a cheaper alternative. While still expensive, its better than buying a condo in Chelsea or north of 59th in terms of price and tax. Also depending on who you ask, the views are better.
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Unanimously approved by the city council!!! There was just one comment, if any studies on wind tunnels are being made for such tall buildings, but no opposition. This one is good for construction in the spring.
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Wow! Great! Now let's get supertalls going up in Brooklyn and Queens
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Sad news that this one has been cut from the planned 95 floors and there has been a reduction in the number of condominium units...

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Construction of a 743 dwelling unit 76 story residential tower with 19,591 sf. of
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I'll find out the new height during a public meeting that's being held on June 9th. On another forum it's being reported that it was 76 real stories all along and the height remains 990ft, however this is not accurate. Although they have the right to rise 990ft, they are not talking advantage of the full development rights assigned to the site.

To me this is a sign the developer is being a tad conservative, by scaling back the project from the original plans.
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I'm not sure the height has been cut. I think it has always been "95 floors" but 76 actual ones.

I hope at least... I counted closer to 76 in the official rendering depicting the 990' version so that's good.
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I'm not sure the height has been cut. I think it has always been "95 floors" but 76 actual ones.

I hope at least... I counted closer to 76 in the official rendering depicting the 990' version so that's good.
Evidence which suggests the height had been cut: Why did one planning document it lists 95 floors and another list only 76? Planning departments Is only interested in the real floor count. The developer can market it for anything he wants, but planning would not accept promotional materials/information as part of official decision making.

2) the unit count has decreased

3) the rendering was preliminary and not a definitive depiction of the final product.

It's possible that they increased the ceiling heights, made the units larger, and keep it at 990ft but the more likely scenario is that's it's been cut.
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There is no way it was 95 floors of condos in 990ft to being with. This new floor count sounds more accurate to the height.
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While some New York developers are building residential skyscrapers with 16 foot ceilings or more, Jersey City isn't quiet there yet.

For reference, 520 West 41 Street in NY is only 11ft per floor based on last height and floor count. 50 First Street Tower 1 in San Francisco, a mixed-use building, is surprisingly only 10.2ft per floor. The residential buildings at URL at Harborside Buildings in Jersey City are only 10ft per floor, according to the database. 99 Hudson was scheduled to be 10.4 for floor, so even taller than the luxury 70 story URL buildings under construction right now. If it's only 76 true floors but still at 990ft, that would be 13ft per floor. So not outside the realm of possibilities, but it would be very high for Jersey City, especially for a residential building where it has customarily been 10-11 ft.
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But anyway, we'll find out for sure in 4 days during the public meeting. I would normally send my contact an email to find out information, but I don't want him to think that I'm obsessed with height as there are so many other positives to this development and development in general in Jersey City.
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CIA if there are any important new renderings or blueprints presented, whip out that phone!

If you could, ask about the time table for the project. Often they change, but it would be good to know from the actual developer versus what the tabloids present.

Lastly, if there are NIMBY'S, feel free to give them an exorcism. In the name of Gary Barnett (Jesus), leave this soul shadow demon ! Something like that should scare them, and hopefully reform them. But you must be loud, while holding a CTBUH cross.

The last request is optional, but if things get out of hand with residents complaining about shadows or save the children, then please go ahead.
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While some New York developers are building residential skyscrapers with 16 foot ceilings or more, Jersey City isn't quiet there yet.

For reference, 520 West 41 Street in NY is only 11ft per floor based on last height and floor count. 50 First Street Tower 1 in San Francisco, a mixed-use building, is surprisingly only 10.2ft per floor. The residential buildings at URL at Harborside Buildings in Jersey City are only 10ft per floor, according to the database. 99 Hudson was scheduled to be 10.4 for floor, so even taller than the luxury 70 story URL buildings under construction right now. If it's only 76 true floors but still at 990ft, that would be 13ft per floor. So not outside the realm of possibilities, but it would be very high for Jersey City, especially for a residential building where it has customarily been 10-11 ft.
It would be 13 feet per floor if there weren't a lobby and mechanical crown. With those it's likely 12 or less. Also, like I said the rendering which depicted the 990' version also depicted around that number (it was hard to count them exactly but the floor count was in the 70s not 95).
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So I won't be able to make it to the public meeting tonight. Sorry. Hopefully someone from here and go and report back?

http://www.cityofjerseycity.com/uplo...0June09agn.pdf

JERSEY CITY PLANNING BOARD
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Please be advised the following items will be heard at a Regular Meeting of the Jersey City Planning Board, scheduled for Tuesday, June 9th, 2015 at 5:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers in City Hall at 280 Grove St., 2nd floor, Jersey City, New Jersey.
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So I won't be able to make it to the public meeting tonight. Sorry. Hopefully someone from here and go and report back?

http://www.cityofjerseycity.com/uplo...0June09agn.pdf

JERSEY CITY PLANNING BOARD
PUBLIC NOTICE
REGULAR MEETING

Please be advised the following items will be heard at a Regular Meeting of the Jersey City Planning Board, scheduled for Tuesday, June 9th, 2015 at 5:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers in City Hall at 280 Grove St., 2nd floor, Jersey City, New Jersey.
Damn, I was hoping to go too and won't be able to. Maybe later but no idea how late this will run.
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